Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 11:24:55 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org> To: Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> Cc: Paul Schmehl <pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com>, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>, Michael Gmelin <grembo@freebsd.org>, Alfred Perlstein <alfred@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org" <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Who was the mental genius Message-ID: <CD32DDF0-189A-4E38-A045-BCA433289C4B@mu.org> In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1406061050200.9814@wonkity.com> References: <D2EE1900E54F5DC324E503D3@localhost> <5390E62E.6090807@madpilot.net> <6CEF0183772C97582B196466@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> <539130B3.9030604@freebsd.org> <8CA324878D330942AB8AE0B3@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> <5391611A.3090406@marino.st> <53917957.2020909@freebsd.org> <53917A30.8050504@marino.st> <EA88DBD9-F436-4107-9181-45A5375C6442@freebsd.org> <18E02559D230ED6DF11C040A@localhost> <20140606151739.GC73493@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <E590017B5B94CBFBF1C39176@localhost> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1406061050200.9814@wonkity.com>
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> On Jun 6, 2014, at 10:02 AM, Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> wrote: >=20 >> On Fri, 6 Jun 2014, Paul Schmehl wrote: >>=20 >> No offense was meant. I deliberately chose the subject to stimulate disc= ussion, which it has obviously done. >=20 > Stimulating discussion without insulting people generally gives better res= ults. >=20 > Look, we are all doing the best we can with what we've got. The ports peo= ple have been trying to accomplish the equivalent of turning a cruise ship a= round in a bathtub without rattling the silverware. It's not possible to an= ticipate every issue, particularly when there are so many. >=20 > The way improvements are made is for interested people (that is, you) to > get involved and help to improve it. >=20 > The challenge you have created is to anticipate the next issue and report i= t, preferably with a plan for a solution, before it happens. >=20 Let's not overly tone police folks. If no one can constructively criticize t= hen we don't get any feedback.=20 Anyone's tone can be attacked I firmly believe that Paul's tone matches the w= ay we east coasters chide each other to provoke debate.=20=
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