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Date:      Tue, 23 Jan 2001 21:11:57 -0600
From:      jpaetzel@hutchtel.net
To:        "Josh Paetzel" <jpaetzel@hutchtel.net>, John <papalia@udel.edu>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Install hangs on older system
Message-ID:  <3A6DF39D.29657.58F82E@localhost>
In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010123162007.00aeccc0@mail.udel.edu>
References:  <00ec01c0832a$c84e1780$6100000a@vladsempire.net>

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On 23 Jan 2001, at 16:25, John wrote:

> 
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I'm attempting to install 4.2-Release on an 'older' packard bell
> > > system.  I've read the archives and it seems that these systems are not
> > > exactly favorites for working well, but still, I'd like to give it a shot
> >:)
> > >
> > > The problem (occurred with both 4.1-Release and 4.2-Release ISO's that I
> > > d/loaded):
> > > Everything goes great, up until the file copies start occurring.  Every
> > > time it gets to the same point - copying over boot/support.4th, and the
> > > system hangs.  It seems odd though that not only does the system freeze
> > > solid, but it also prevents me from using the keyboard shortcut to switch
> > > ports on my KVM (keyboard input is completely locked out).
> > >
> > > The hardware:
> > > Packard Bell Legend 130CD Supreme
> > > CD Rom = NEC CDR-272 (4x)
> > > Processor = P100
> > > RAM = 72MB
> > > Motherboard = Packard Bell Agoura/Wildcat (Intel chipset, built by PB)
> > > Video = Built-in, Cirrus Logic Alpine GD5430 video chipset.
> > >
> > > Other:
> > > Chipset PCI064B Super I/O controller
> > > VL82C593 controller
> > >
> > > Any thoughts of what might be going wrong, and what might be a possible
> > > solution?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> >
> >Try installing and having the verbose console up. Press Alt-F2 to get to it.
> >Tell us what error messages it gives when it hangs.
> >
> >In general Packard Bells suffer from a couple of things.  One:  The 4x
> >cdroms aren't always fully IDE compatible.  Two:  They oftentimes have buggy
> >IDE controllers.  Three:  They are packard bells, and just suffer from all
> >sorts of evil other stuff.
> 
> Actually, I had been watching the verbose console the entire time.  When 
> the install hangs, there is NO error message.  It just sits there. And sits 
> there. And sits there. (until I hit reset).
> 
> Interesting fact: just for fun, I tried installing off of a set of 2.2.6 
> CD's that I have.  The install went beautifully smoothly - no problems at 
> all.  Then, after reboot, I get the lovely message that boot.config and 
> boot.help both can't be found, thereby giving me a useless system.
> 
> I'm thinking about just trying to find another motherboard to stick in this 
> thing, but being strapped for cash right now, that might not happen.  Any 
> other thoughts or ideas?
> 

Hmmm...It just so happens that I have one of those, and am able 
to duplicate the problem.  I can install 2.1.5 just fine, but 4.2 
chokes.  I even went to far as to put a buslogic SCSI controller and 
a 400 meg drive in it, and it still hung.  No error message.  I think 
that you are SOL.

Josh

> Thanks,
> John
> 
> 
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