Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 18:48:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Jamie Lawrence <jal@42is.com> To: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG (Jonathan M. Bresler), hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ATTN Emacs users; new Zile release Message-ID: <199709130148.SAA25594@colonel.42inc.com> In-Reply-To: <199709121602.JAA13216@hub.freebsd.org> from "Jonathan M. Bresler" at "Sep 12, 97 09:02:58 am"
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> Jamie Bowden wrote: > > > > On Fri, 12 Sep 1997, Aled Morris wrote: > > > > Does anyone here actually get the point that a newbie can't use emacs > > anymore than they can use vi? I hate ee as much as the rest of you, but > > it's small, and it tells the newbie which keys do what, which vi and emacs > > don't do. > [..] > but why make them learn ee key-bindings, and then when they > move on to a better editor force them to learn a new set of > key-bindings? that's just torturing the poor unsuspecting > newbie. vi key-bindings are not an option--a modal editor > will confuse the daylights out of them. so lets make > emacs key-bindings the system default for ee. I don't mean to confuse things, but I don't know that that's best. Emacs is superior, hands down. However, vi can run in places where emacs can't. I'm a sysadmin and what's worse, only seem to have enough brainspace for one editor, so I only use vi, even though emacs is fully configured on every system I use. Learning a new editor when your system is hosed is the only thing worse than learning a new editor. My point is simply that consistency is what matters. If someone is installing FreeBSD, they are implicitly committing to a fair amount of learning. The point should be to make it easier to learn the most important points first, and let them focus as they will later. My $.0x02. -j, mainly a lurker. > jmb >
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