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Date:      Thu, 24 Sep 1998 23:14:27 -0700
From:      Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au>
To:        Donn Miller <dmm125@bellatlantic.net>
Cc:        questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: reading Sun-formatted diskettes 
Message-ID:  <199809250614.XAA00472@word.smith.net.au>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 25 Sep 1998 00:44:13 -0000." <Pine.NEB.3.96.980925002603.175A-100000@myname.my.domain> 

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> I'm trying to find out how to read floppies formatted in Sun filesystem
> format... supposedly, they're in UFS format, which FreeBSD uses.  Maybe
> there's an option to `mount' to read older 4.3BSD filesystems?  I couldn't
> find anything in the manpages about this.  I know you can use the option
> to `newfs' to create 4.3BSD formats.

Solaris uses a different word ordering; you can't mount Solaris 
filesystems under FreeBSD.

> I was trying to copy the Solaris install CD onto the first slice of HD #2,
> because Solaris panics while trying to boot the kernel off the CD for the
> first time.  I just want to test to make sure it's not my CDROM Solaris is
> choking on.

This is a FreeBSD support list; we can't help you with Solaris issues 
other than to point out that we dont suffer from them.

> The tech-support guy at Sun Microsystems said that maybe my CDROM wasn't
> 100% ATAPI/IDE compliant.  Now I'm wondering why Solaris is so picky that
> it has to have a CDROM that is 100% IDE compliant, even though
> FreeBSD/Linux/Win98 can use the CDROM perfectly well.  It's a BTC 24X max
> CDROM.

It's a convenient excuse for not fixing their driver.

> BTW, is there a diff between "24X max" and "24X" CDROMS?  I went to BTC's
> website at http://www.btc.com.tw/ and it said my particular model is
> ATAPI/IDE and completely MPC level 3 compliant.

It means they have different ad copy writers.

> BTW, what does MPC level 3 compliant mean?  Does it mean that it's 100%
> ATAPI compliant?  When FreeBSD boots up, it sort of "hangs" for about 25
> seconds while probing the CDROM, but it still works great.  Is this an
> indication that it's not 100% IDE complian?

No, this is just FreeBSD being very generous waiting for possibly 
extremely bogus IDE disks which can take up to that long to indicate 
their presence.

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\\  sometimes you're behind.      \\  mike@smith.net.au
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