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Date:      Tue, 26 Jan 2016 18:29:23 -0700
From:      Adam Weinberger <adamw@adamw.org>
To:        John Marino <marino@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r407270 - head/ports-mgmt/portmaster
Message-ID:  <FFDB388E-185C-4A8C-A90A-C61F813B2856@adamw.org>
In-Reply-To: <201601261123.u0QBNcvL091258@repo.freebsd.org>
References:  <201601261123.u0QBNcvL091258@repo.freebsd.org>

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> On 26 Jan, 2016, at 4:23, John Marino <marino@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
>=20
> Author: marino
> Date: Tue Jan 26 11:23:38 2016
> New Revision: 407270
> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/407270
>=20
> Log:
>  ports-mgmt/portmaster: DEPRECATE without expiration date
>=20
>  Moreover, there are better options available.  All FreeBSD platforms
>  support ports-mgmt/poudriere (although some many struggle under the =
load)
>  and the most common amd64 and i386 platform users have the additional
>  option of ports-mgmt/synth which is user-friendly, lightweight, and =
aimed
>  at users of portmaster, portupgrade, and even poudriere.

John this doesn't feel like a decision you should be making =
unilaterally. I agree wholeheartedly that the lack of contribution to =
portmaster is troubling, but it still works exactly as intended for =
anybody that doesn't use pkg to install binary packages, and is the ONLY =
option for people who maintain single servers, instead of server farms, =
and have no need to build ports just so they can install them later.

synth is written in ada. I'm sorry but any port-management port that =
requires over 20 dependencies before it even works is not lightweight. I =
assume that dragonflybsd comes with gcc (and ada support maybe), which =
is great and I'm super happy for you, but you should not be scaring off =
new users (who will install what the handbook tells them to install) =
just to promote a new program you wrote.

portmaster is in the handbook all over the place. Rewrite all those =
sections to demonstrate how to use synth instead and then I'll support =
you deprecating portmaster. In the meantime, please revert this.

# Adam


--=20
Adam Weinberger
adamw@adamw.org
http://www.adamw.org




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