Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 09:10:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey <chuckr@mat.net> To: Archie Cobbs <archie@whistle.com> Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ATTENTION PLEASE: g77 in base system. Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9904100904470.378-100000@picnic.mat.net> In-Reply-To: <199904100551.WAA93232@bubba.whistle.com>
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On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Archie Cobbs wrote: > Jordan K. Hubbard writes: > > > Yeah, I'm serious, I would really like gcj+libgcj, to get java stuff > > > compiled (non portably) into binaries on FreeBSD. > > > > 1. I agree in principle. > > > > 2. I'd sort of like to see a second release of this, at least, before > > we start talking seriously of bringing it into -current. I predict > > a rapidly changing Doppler on this target. > > gcj is still pretty wet behind the ears at this point. So it seems > one approach would be to have it in there but by default not > compiled/included (the sources are already part of egcs and so in > the tree as I understand it). Then when/if it becomes more stable > and loved by the world we can flip that switch to default to on. > > Additionally, the "libgjc" component that was just released should > be made into a port for now (this is the runtime that goes with > the gcj Java compiler). > > Longer term, I think there is enough interest in it that this combo > will eventually become the most popular freeware runtime for Java. As long as we can bring it in conditionally, have libgcj is possibly more important to FreeBSD than you'd think. Realize there are a large number of us out there doing Java development (I'm only doing it for classes now, but there's a lot of folks doing this) and since there's no Java2 yet for FreeBSD, it's a drawback. I have Solaris7 at my elbow here, *extremely* unwillingly, only because I need Java2. It's going to be possible to get a pretty good idea of how well libgcj works, pretty quickly; what I'm saying here is, it's not a 3 month wait here, it's probably a couple weeks. The reason gcj is "wet behind the ears" is because it's not useful without the runtime support, which has just been released as libgcj, so don't make any judgements about gcj, make them about gcj+libgcj. > > -Archie > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@picnic.mat.net | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (Solaris7). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
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