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Date:      Mon, 30 Mar 2015 19:18:55 -0400
From:      "John D. Hendrickson" <johnandsara2@cox.net>
To:        "Lundberg, Johannes" <johannes@brilliantservice.co.jp>
Cc:        "freebsd-x11@freebsd.org" <freebsd-x11@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Wayland shm?
Message-ID:  <5519D9DF.4090004@cox.net>
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Lundberg, Johannes wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I've seen on the graphics page that wayland port is done.

 > I know that there are parts missing regarding hardware support for 
newer cards

Xorg deleted support for many video cards and support for older X11 apps 
(Xcb is NOT compatible: it's cache scheme that is supposed to be "the 
reason" admits its cache is broken).  they deleted Xlib but stole most 
code doing that.  also: the move to make GL broken and side with CL ? 
continual hacks also break Xt, Xm, (i have yet to see if installing 
multiple versions helps - but is there an old Xt version 1.foo for new 
Xorg?  likely no)

But now Xorg is moving to wayland (they havent said so but i smell it). 
  Debain to "Unity" (another X rewrite).  and Apple - they will continue 
to use Japan G7 and do similar changes: all adds up to.  all USA code 
deleted (copy lefted though) and no hardware except ones "key holders" 
approved.  debian says X is insecure because any X app can talk to X: 
but their "fix" is so that only ubantu "maintainer" software can do 
"certain things" (likely, change IP and etc), no one else !  that's the 
worst kind of security and also doesn't fix anything.

a few improvements yes Xorg. but what is the price and agenda ?  and who 
in the world is funding it ?

= all software that's working up in flames , by plan

= every year a hardware pc/cell requires it's own hardware
   and breaks all software but the vendors - who happen to
   come out unscathed

someone out there (not johannes) knows exactly what i'm talking about

= only news wares out there are designed failures and obstructions
   they give you a few new wigets - they take away all your $$$ and
   human rights



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