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Date:      Thu, 20 Jul 2000 01:30:35 +0200
From:      "freebsd" <george@vagner.com>
To:        "Generic Player" <generic@unitedtamers.com>, <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: The death of my machine.
Message-ID:  <LPBBKFCBJMKMFLIMDPEJAEGECFAA.george@vagner.com>
In-Reply-To: <003201bff1f4$ec557140$f16c4418@mshome.net>

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what was the reason you changed the motherboard? i am curious because
i have been having stability problems with both my EPOX and TYAN mb's that
use VIA chipsets. mostly i have been having random crashes and rebooting
on win NT, Freebsd, and windows 98. I realize that it looks like a hardware
issue
and swapping out the memory, CPU and hard drive controller/hard disk didnt
help.

It is very strange...I am wondering if the AMD cpu's i am using are just
crap or something.
they are 300 and 350's running at 100 MHZ FSB, I even tried slowing it way
down to 66 MHZ
fsb and 200 MHZ without any real increase in stability.

Maybe there is a bios issue i need to look at closer does any one have any
suggestions?



No 2 things can be the same, they cannot
exist in the same space at the same time.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Generic Player
  Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 4:48 AM
  To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG
  Subject: The death of my machine.


  Ok, here is a good one for you.  I switched motherboards, from a board
based on a VIA chipset to an ASUS board based on an ALi chipset.  At first
after booting up, everything was fine.  Then, the next day, just all of a
sudden, I couldn't telnet or ftp into the machine.  I rebooted it, and
sendmail wouldn't start, and I still couldn't ftp or telnet into it, or
access anything by its DNS name, although I could still ping stuff by its
IP, apache still started though.  I figured maybe I needed a re-install what
with changing the mobo and all, so I re-installed, re-formatting during the
install.  But, even after the fresh install, the same problem still existed.
Any ideas what this could be?  Its FreeBSD 4.0-release, a k-6 300MHz with
128 MB of RAM on an ASUS P5A-B motherboard now.

  Thanks
  Generic Player



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been having stability problems with both my EPOX and TYAN mb's=20
that</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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VIA chipsets. mostly i have been having random crashes and=20
rebooting</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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NT, Freebsd, and windows 98. I realize that it looks like a hardware=20
issue</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D850132423-19072000>and=20
swapping out the memory, CPU and hard drive controller/hard disk didnt=20
help.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D850132423-19072000>It is=20
very strange...I am wondering if the AMD cpu's i am using are just crap =
or=20
something.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D850132423-19072000>they=20
are 300 and 350's running at 100 MHZ FSB, I even tried slowing it way =
down to 66=20
MHZ</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D850132423-19072000>fsb=20
and 200 MHZ without any real increase in stability.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D850132423-19072000></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D850132423-19072000>Maybe=20
there is a bios issue i need to look at closer does any one have any=20
suggestions?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D850132423-19072000></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
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<P><FONT size=3D2>No 2 things can be the same, they cannot<BR>exist in =
the same=20
space at the same time. </FONT></P>
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  <DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
  owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG=20
  [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]<B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Generic=20
  Player<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 20, 2000 4:48 AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  questions@FreeBSD.ORG<BR><B>Subject:</B> The death of my=20
  machine.<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ok, here is a good one for you.&nbsp; =
I switched=20
  motherboards, from a board based on a VIA chipset to an ASUS board =
based on an=20
  ALi chipset.&nbsp; At first after booting up, everything was =
fine.&nbsp; Then,=20
  the next day, just all of a sudden, I couldn't telnet or ftp into the=20
  machine.&nbsp; I rebooted it, and sendmail wouldn't start, and I still =

  couldn't ftp or telnet into it, or access anything by its DNS name, =
although I=20
  could still ping stuff by its IP, apache still started though.&nbsp; I =
figured=20
  maybe I needed a re-install what with changing the mobo and all, so I=20
  re-installed, re-formatting during the install.&nbsp; But, even after =
the=20
  fresh install, the same problem still existed.&nbsp; Any ideas what =
this could=20
  be?&nbsp; Its FreeBSD 4.0-release, a k-6 300MHz with 128 MB of RAM on =
an ASUS=20
  P5A-B motherboard now.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Generic Player</FONT></DIV>
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