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Date:      Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:37:34 -0800
From:      Chuck Swiger <cswiger@mac.com>
To:        Da Rock <rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Old user can't log in
Message-ID:  <470E75B0-C7E9-4F05-A112-62DF01F1EA1D@mac.com>
In-Reply-To: <1234498626.13067.96.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au>
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On Feb 12, 2009, at 8:17 PM, Da Rock wrote:
> I've been following this thread with interest: are you saying FreeBSD
> logins cannot handle more than 16 groups? If so, why? Is this  
> mitigated
> by using other authentication methods (ie kerberos, ldap, etc)?

There's a compile-time limit of the relevant kernel data structures as  
to how many groups a user can be in, described by "sysctl  
kern.ngroups".  It's possible to recompile the kernel with a larger  
number, but doing so will break NFS (and possibly other things).  It  
doesn't matter whether you use Kerberos, LDAP, etc to set up the  
groups; while those things do not have a 16-group limit, the FreeBSD  
kernel [1] does.

With reasonable organization, and appropriate use of sudo or setgid  
binaries for things like people who use SVN or CVS, there generally  
isn't reason or need for a user to be in so many groups.  For the  
exceptional cases, switching to using a full ACL system rather than  
the traditional Unix permission model is probably going to be a better  
solution.

Regards,
-- 
-Chuck

[1]: And almost all other Unixes...




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