Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 19:52:29 -0600 From: "Nikolas Britton" <nikolas.britton@gmail.com> To: Chris <chrcoluk@gmail.com> Cc: Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu>, FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: is THIS why the 6.2 release seems stalled ? Message-ID: <ef10de9a0701101752g428ec02bg51b7d3aeea894a45@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3aaaa3a0701100901j119e2566yf1718f140027f7d1@mail.gmail.com> References: <45A2805E.7060000@ccstores.com> <20070109222558.GA75695@xor.obsecurity.org> <ef10de9a0701091508k7f1775f7h4c2cdc8c7498e7fc@mail.gmail.com> <20070110003730.GA94711@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <ef10de9a0701092201x22bc17f2p4434eab0dda58c63@mail.gmail.com> <20070110154436.GA97702@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20070110161721.GA68022@mooseriver.com> <3aaaa3a0701100901j119e2566yf1718f140027f7d1@mail.gmail.com>
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On 1/10/07, Chris <chrcoluk@gmail.com> wrote: > On 10/01/07, Josef Grosch <jgrosch@mooseriver.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 10:44:36AM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 12:01:51AM -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote: > > > > > > > On 1/9/07, Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu> wrote: > > > > > > > > >FreeBSD is created and supported by volunteers. > > > > >Seems like you just posted a nice list of things > > > > >for you to get busy and contribute. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't have time to contribute work, I have a business to manage as > > > > well as other obligations that come first... I need this stuff to just > > > > work... so I can get real things done. > > > > > > Yah, well the people doing it are also busy and working at things > > > which are supposed to make them a living. Most make their > > > FreeBSD contribution work on the side - in addition to their > > > paying jobs although some are in the fortunate position of working > > > for someone who recognizes it as also contributing to their > > > productivity on the job. > > > > > > There are many ways to contribute. Not all are writing code. > > > Some are in documentation and in other services. And, although > > > it is a volunteer project, it does require money to support such > > > things as servers and test machines and network access. > > > > > > So, if you cannot contribute time and effort and your business is > > > so valuable, then consider contributing money - to support someone > > > to work in the project, at least part time. > > > > > > If you only want to get something for nothing, then you live > > > in the wrong world. > > > > > > Hear, hear. > > > > Nikolas, there are many things that FreeBSD need, a large number of them do > > not require programming. As a Christian here is a saying that I'm sure you > > are familiar with, "It's better to light one candle than to curse the > > darkness". So brother Nikolas, what candles have you lit today? You > > certainly have produced a lot of smoke. > > > > One of the things you could have done instead of wasting your and our time > > on this thrash is to sit down a write a detailed description of some of the > > things you find lacking in FreeBSD. By detailed I mean a series of bullet > > points that describe what is the problem, what you tried, what your setup > > was, OS version, hardware configuration, etc. This would be a whole lot > > more helpful than standing on a street corner and screaming, "FreeBSD is > > FUCKED! Linux is taking over!" > > > > Many hands make lite work. Are you going to lend a hand or are you going to > > stand on the sidelines and tell us how we are screwing up. If it is going > > to be the latter please go away, we have more than our fair share of Monday > > morning quarterbacks. > > > > > > > > Josef > > > > -- > > Josef Grosch | Another day closer to a | FreeBSD 6.1 > > jgrosch@MooseRiver.com | Micro$oft free world | Berkeley, Ca. > > > > > > > > What I think freebsd needs. > > 1 - To fix stuff that works in linux but goes to crap in freebsd, one > such example is NFS. > 2 - A better installer, this is probably the biggest single thing that > puts people of freebsd, the less people using freebsd the less funds > likely to be recieved. Could you articulate on point 2?... I don't really see that as a problem.
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