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Date:      Wed, 20 Mar 2002 14:00:38 -0500
From:      "Peter C. Lai" <sirmoo@cowbert.2y.net>
To:        cjohnson@palomine.net
Cc:        security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Safe SSH logins from public, untrusted Windows computers
Message-ID:  <20020320140038.B17139@cowbert.2y.net>
In-Reply-To: <85adt3uwxn.fsf@stiegl.niksun.com>; from ath@niksun.com on Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 09:37:56AM -0500
References:  <20020319144538.A42969@palomine.net> <20020319131408.C324@ophiuchus.kazrak.com> <20020319152125.F43336@palomine.net> <85adt3uwxn.fsf@stiegl.niksun.com>

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When considering the use of the Java SSH Client on your ssh server,
make sure that you use an unsigned applet.
Unsigned applets are untrusted by the system, and so, when it is
loaded, the JVM sandbox will:

1. prevent any cached copies of your host keys on the filesystem
2. prevent other applications from talking to your applet, and vice-versa
3. prevent the applet from connecting to any ssh server other than
the one that served the applet (I dunno if this is a sandbox feature
or one that is coded into MindTerm).

I haven't seen a trojan for win32 JVMs in nutscrape and IE that
defeats the sandboxes (yet), although as has been stated before,
you're still screwed if you have a backdoor that takes control
of the keyboard DLL and intercepts all keystrokes.

-- 
Peter C. Lai
University of Connecticut
Dept. of Residential Life | Programmer
Dept. of Molecular and Cell Biology | Undergraduate Research Assistant
http://cowbert.2y.net/
860.427.4542 (Room)
860.486.1899 (Lab)
203.206.3784 (Cellphone)

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