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Date:      Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:12:07 +0100
From:      Lars Engels <lars.engels@0x20.net>
To:        Peter Jeremy <peterjeremy@optushome.com.au>
Cc:        Bruce Cran <bruce@cran.org.uk>, Dimitry Andric <dimitry@andric.com>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ata: printf on every spinup/spindown?
Message-ID:  <20090326191206.GA92358@e.0x20.net>
In-Reply-To: <20090326085449.GB56137@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org>
References:  <49BE7C5A.2080103@icyb.net.ua> <10611.1237233778@critter.freebsd.dk> <20090320074833.67d615e2@gluon> <49C37B75.5060905@andric.com> <20090320191938.25d85caa@gluon> <20090326085449.GB56137@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org>

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On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 07:54:49PM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote:
> On 2009-Mar-20 19:19:38 +0000, Bruce Cran <bruce@cran.org.uk> wrote:
> >There's a reluctance to include code like this, I
> >think because it bypasses the ATA driver and talks directly to the
> >drive. Since the driver doesn't know what the drive's been told to do,
> >it can't know to adjust timers etc. to wait for the disk to spin back
> >up, for example.
>=20
> This code is no worse than installing sysutils/ataidle - which also
> bypasses the driver.
>=20
> As it stands, FreeBSD out-of-the-box behaves in a way that adversely
> impacts laptop HDD life - and correcting this requires that the
> end-user both be aware of the problem and then find, install and
> configure a port to work around this.  I am very uncomfortable with
> this and would prefer to see the base system require less user
> knowledge/intervention.

AFAIK ataidle is under the BSD license, so we could include it in the
base system.

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