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Date:      Mon, 22 Jun 1998 03:40:13 -0700 (PDT)
From:      "Bryan K. Ogawa" <bkogawa@primenet.com>
To:        tjohnson@verio.net
Cc:        smp@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD hackers <hackers@FreeBSD.ORG>, "'Chuck Robey'" <chuckr@glue.umd.edu>
Subject:   Re: TYAN 1668 anyone ??
Message-ID:  <199806221040.DAA02653@foo.primenet.com>
References:   <A03CD00C69B1D01195AB00A024ECEB169B6C61@KAORI>

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>I got a few lockups when I had dram refresh queue and I think the other
>option is fast dram leadoff turned on in chipset options of my =
>bios.(awd
>5.01) The bios defaults turns them on I think.  Turning them off fixed
>my lockup problems.  They would happen to me when I had heavy disk
>access and I moved the mouse and noticed the pc locked up.

>I have a Tyan 1668


For the record, I just had this exact same problem while trying to
diagnose a hang on my 430HX SuperMicro board.

The symptoms happened with a 4M Trident card, but are not so bad with
my Matrox Millenium -- essentially any mouse motion (PS/2 or Serial
mouse) will cause a hang given enough time.

One thing I've noticed is that the power on the MB seems dodgy -- I
have a lot of SCSI devices and I am getting rather nasty hangs during
boot with 5 SCSI devices.

I was able to get rid of the hangs by disabling the internal cache on
the chips -- obviously not a solution, but perhaps a clue?

This also seems to be related to a hang that I get with Netscape
periodically with both the Matrox and the Trident card -- the results
are the same (everything dies, not even pings of the machine work).

For the record, the board in question is a SuperMicro P55T2S -- a
Pentium board with 430HX chipset.

My other 430TX board with a K6 doesn't have the problem, btw.

>-----Original Message----- >From: Chuck Robey
[mailto:chuckr@glue.umd.edu] >Sent: Friday, June 19, 1998 7:56 AM >To:
S=F8ren Schmidt >Cc: smp@FreeBSD.ORG; FreeBSD hackers >Subject: Re:
TYAN 1668 anyone ??


>On Fri, 19 Jun 1998, S=F8ren Schmidt wrote:

>>=20
>> I have this most odd problem with at least 3 of these boards
>> (TYAN 1668 dual P6).
>>=20
>> The problem is that those boards can lock up totally given a set
>> of specific events:
>>=20
>> Run in a high res graphics mode, that uses linear addressing.
>> Use the mouse together with disk activity.
>>=20
>> This can be done in either X, win95 or winNT with the same sad
>> result, a total lockup of the system.
>>=20
>> If I use the mouse in a textmode, or in a graphics mode that
>> uses banking, the problem doesn't appear.
>>=20
>> We have tried anything here, we have the problem in 3 machines
>> all of them have had their motherboards changed several times,
>> we have tried different videocards, mouses, tried SCSI vs IDE,
>> you name it, everytime with the same result.
>>=20
>> They can all "make world" for days in an xterm, given that you
>> dont touch the mouse, if you do move the mouse and hit a bottom
>> that will hang the machin solid in 80% of the cases.
>>=20
>> I have a TYAN 1662 board which is allmost the same just AT instead
>> of ATX, and it doesn't show this behavior, even with the same
>> parts put into the machine....
>>=20
>> Any ideas, I'm totally at a loss here....

>I have a 1662 with 2 PPro 166/512's here, running with a Cirrus 5436
>card, doing 1024X1280.  64 megs memory, and just as stable as a rock.
>Done many hundreds of buildworlds, only once have I ever had a panic.
>Using Option "linear" in my XF86Config file.

>Toss a test at me if you want.  I'm not using softupdates or CAM, tho,
>and I only use a mouse in X.  I often do the buildworlds while I'm
>screwing around with something else, even netscape.  I have 4 G of =
>disk,
>with 192M of swap.

>>=20
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>-=3D-=3D-
>> S=F8ren Schmidt               (sos@FreeBSD.org)               FreeBSD
>Core Team
>>                 Even more code to hack -- will it ever end?
>> ..
>>=20
>> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
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>>=20
>>=20

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