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Date:      Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:35:28 +0100
From:      =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= <sos@deepcore.dk>
To:        "Sean C. Farley" <scf@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        d@delphij.net, Justin Hibbits <jrh29@alumni.cwru.edu>, Jeremy Chadwick <koitsu@FreeBSD.ORG>, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, "Andrey V. Elsukov" <bu7cher@yandex.ru>, "Aryeh M. Friedman" <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com>, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= <sos@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Wiki for discussing P35/IHC9(R)/SATA issues set up
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Sean C. Farley wrote:
>
> Some people are having issues with SATA/300 drives being report (or
> utilized) at SATA/150.  I see that with my work computer.  Personally,
> the timeouts that result in errors are my main concern.  Here is a
> link[1] to my report.
OK, the situation where drives are found at SATA150 while drive and=20
controller both support SATA300 can have lots of reasons.
If ATA states it has '300 support and the drive supports it as well=20
(note at least some early IBM/Hitachi drives was '300 but the firmware=20
set to '150 and needed a vendor supplied util to up it to '300) it=20
should work. However all kinds of interaction problems can make them=20
agree on the lower '150 speed, and ATA does not try to force anything=20
here, it just asks the drive/controller to connect at the highest speed=20
possible.
As long as I dont support portmulitpliers the speed is not really an=20
issue, no drive (so far) on this planet can outrun even the SATA150=20
interface.

On the ATAPI timeouts there not much to say, SATA ATAPI HW sucks jut as=20
much as ATAPI HW did it seems, the only way is to try and get it working =

on as many as possible at the same time. That however means that someone =

(usually me, you wont belive the ATAPI drive collection I've got here=20
already) needs to have all the drives available and time plus motivation =

and needed skills to poke around to get it working. At least all the=20
controllers I have here in the lab and the two SATA ATAPI drives in same =

work flawlessly...

Sad but true.

-S=F8ren
>
> Thank you for looking into these issues.
NP! I  try to get things fixed, but time has been limited lately...

-S=F8ren




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