Skip site navigation (1)Skip section navigation (2)
Date:      Mon, 16 Mar 2020 14:11:02 +0700
From:      Victor Sudakov <vas@sibptus.ru>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Technological advantages over Linux
Message-ID:  <20200316071102.GD90309@admin.sibptus.ru>
In-Reply-To: <20200215083359.367d8a3e9ddb4942df67d5b5@sohara.org>
References:  <20200214121620.GA80657@admin.sibptus.ru> <CAEJNuHwRs=6kOK9uiFzEAqCgSgvUb8Xm5o2VWnK-ND_zseowdg@mail.gmail.com> <20200214141600.GA82559@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200214204838.360c8f624397c659946bd764@sohara.org> <20200215063818.GE1482@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200215083359.367d8a3e9ddb4942df67d5b5@sohara.org>

next in thread | previous in thread | raw e-mail | index | archive | help

--RhUH2Ysw6aD5utA4
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 13:38:18 +0700
> Victor Sudakov <vas@sibptus.ru> wrote:
>=20
> > But jails lack a repository of ready-made containers with applications.
>=20
> 	True - but there's never been anything to prevent setting one up,
> iocage has export, import, rename and snapshot which should provide the
> necessary core.
>=20
> > To be honest, jails lack even a decent management infrastructure. Yes we
>=20
> 	There are several iocage, ezjail, cbsd, bsdploy, jest to mention
> just a few. I find iocage suits my needs well enough.

Oh, I've met an iocage person.

Steve, can iocage export thin provisioned images? If you publish an
iocage image e.g. of a Moodle server, will it contain the whole
underlying FreeBSD system within?

>=20
> > have bits like "pkg -j", "bectl jail", "bsdinstall jail",
> > "freebsd-update -b"  but nobody cared to build a convenient
> > infrastructure out of all this, not to speak about a repository of
> > ready-made jails for different purposes.
>=20
> 	Quite so, FreeBSD has all the bits to do it and has had for some
> time, but nobody wanted a repository of pre-built jails enough to make on=
e.
> Nothing stops you from starting one based around one of the tools above or
> from scratch based on the native support. It gets done internally by
> organisations using FreeBSD to provide images that have been tested and
> vetted by internal dev-ops and security folks - such organisations also
> tend to build their own docker repository rather than trusting ones from
> the net.

The last time I checked, "image provision" was broken in
sysutils/vm-bhyve and nobody cares:
https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D241699

--=20
Victor Sudakov,  VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN
2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/

--RhUH2Ysw6aD5utA4
Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc"

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----

iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJebyaGAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY034AIAJeiJf7iJW6ZvwjKb3AKZing
QBCwME35YdJusJYwg2ZgJmO8uIk6uekIxHYyCPxk5R5PEvpqKh0I/ZVCOzE+IbLZ
8Nlb69NRYFypkSFW5arlmLPuEFe2vZJs/663eTsHX6s0TkDXI0OBcopRlAQg31ek
04ZbM1h0+HNqh5V7zESkte4AIT8z6F1ie+SZMVP/1CQeRwGZWwPL7vYy2c3r6wvK
M7qqFd/FJNN/PTJIXhxAN6T4OVos5dacKXde9p4B+zMb5TEyAkBqffWX/wz4mRx3
4Cw2ZneBFG4HqE2AEe5bpztVrOZSsc0JBPUYU4VFfKhOzzFJRialbM31KH5cDqc=
=CXYE
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

--RhUH2Ysw6aD5utA4--



Want to link to this message? Use this URL: <https://mail-archive.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?20200316071102.GD90309>