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Date:      Sun, 8 Dec 2002 17:03:43 -0800 (PST)
From:      Archie Cobbs <archie@dellroad.org>
To:        Bruce Evans <bde@zeta.org.au>
Cc:        Archie Cobbs <archie@dellroad.org>, Kirk McKusick <mckusick@beastie.mckusick.com>, Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, Thomas-Henning von Kamptz <tomsoft@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: backgroud fsck is still locking up system (fwd)
Message-ID:  <200212090103.gB913hXV076280@arch20m.dellroad.org>
In-Reply-To: <20021208083912.G14505-100000@gamplex.bde.org>

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Bruce Evans wrote:
> > > Er, it should be obvious that growfs can't reasonably work on the mounted
> > > partitions.  growfs.1 doesn't exist, but growfs.8 already has the warning
> > > in a general form:
> > >
> > >      ....  Currently growfs can only enlarge unmounted file systems.  Do not
> > >      try enlarging a mounted file system, your system may panic and you will
> > >      not be able to use the file system any longer...
> >
> > Well, I suspected that it might not work... but I would disagree that it
> > was *obvious* that it would not work. This was before "mount" had been
> > run, so / was supposedly mounted (?) read-only.
> 
> Perhaps the unobvious point is that fsck could work.  If the mount is r/w,
> then neither growfs nor fsck can even open the partition r/w.  fsck somehow
> works in the case of a r/o root, but growfs apparently doesn't.  I think
> fsck depends on no other processes making (significant) vfs syscalls for
> on the same partition while it is running (even r/o ones might be harmful
> if they caused reads of metadata which might be inconsistent).  Then when
> fsck has finished it calls mount(... MNT_RELOAD...) to sync the metadata.
> growfs doesn't do this, and even if it did it is not clear that it does
> all the necessary syncing (growfs may change more or different metadata).
> However, I think it does most of the necessary things.

FYI, I submitted a bug/enhancement request to summarize this..

  http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=46110

-Archie

P.S. Why does submitting a bug now generate an email response from
     (and who the heck is) "ThinkHost Support" ??

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