Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 10:22:29 +0200 From: Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@Leidinger.net> To: Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com> Cc: Pav, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, ports-committers@FreeBSD.org, Eric Anholt <eric@anholt.net>, Lucistnik <pav@FreeBSD.org>, Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>, cvs-ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/x11/libX11 Makefile distinfo manpages pkg-plist ports/x11/libX11/files patch-src_ImUtil.c Message-ID: <20070607102229.98t8ak5kmoo8woco@webmail.leidinger.net> In-Reply-To: <20070607015538.GB23820@soaustin.net> References: <200706061625.l56GP3lo043614@repoman.freebsd.org> <20070606200421.GA5453@rot13.obsecurity.org> <1181165084.76200.1.camel@ikaros.oook.cz> <20070606214112.GB6716@rot13.obsecurity.org> <1181173452.30365.20.camel@vonnegut> <20070607014450.GA17218@rot13.obsecurity.org> <20070607015538.GB23820@soaustin.net>
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Quoting Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com> (from Wed, 6 Jun 2007 =20 20:55:38 -0500): > On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 09:44:50PM -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote: >> The FreeBSD project does not have the resources (or desire) to effectivel= y >> do full-time incremental X.org release engineering because of X.org >> changes being continuously pushed into ports. Who decides what is going in and what not? What changes are allowed to =20 go in and which aren't (read: what's the definition of "important" =20 here)? > The last I checked, i386 package builds take ~5 days, amd64 take ~7 days, > sparc64 take more than 3 weeks. If we push point releases any faster than > these dates, we will never have current packages. I think this would be > a serious mistake. 4 weeks would be still too fast for changes to X11 ports, I assume. > I've spent a lot of time looking at why packages are so far behind the > ports and the deep dependency trees are the major part of the problem. So switching to recording explicit dependencies only would give a =20 speed improvement in this case (why shall we rebuild an application =20 which depends on some gnome libs but doesn't make some X11 API calls =20 directly, the package will not change significantly)? Bye, Alexander. --=20 Keep your boss's boss off your boss's back. http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID =3D B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID =3D 72077137
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