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Date:      Mon, 28 Oct 2013 11:26:10 +0100
From:      John Marino <freebsd.contact@marino.st>
To:        Dominic Fandrey <kamikaze@bsdforen.de>
Cc:        ports@freebsd.org, lukasz@wasikowski.net
Subject:   Re: State of the Porters' Handbook
Message-ID:  <526E3BC2.6030004@marino.st>
In-Reply-To: <526E3986.7050304@bsdforen.de>
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On 10/28/2013 11:16, Dominic Fandrey wrote:
> On 28/10/2013 11:03, John Marino wrote:
>> If there are files in those directories, they'll be on the plist and
>> stage handles them.  I'd have to look up how to create empty directories
>> properly.
> 
> Stage replaceses strings in installed files?

No, the port does that kind of thing in the stage directory.  After
everything is installed there in the stage directory, they are packaged
or installed into the $PREFIX

> I can see the benefits for less error prone package building. But right now
> it's just additional work coming my way.

You really need to get a better grasp of the concept.  There are several
emails from bapt that may help.  For new ports it's not "additional"
work and for existing ports, yes there is a conversion but the benefits
are worth it.

>> 2. Stage is not going away.  There is not another option.
>> 3. You've been given a source of documentation.  It's not in the
>> handbook, but it does exist in some form.  What more do you need to
>> progress?
> 
> There is a procedure. Stuff belongs into the handbook. Stick to it.

Fine, but it's a huge topic that somebody has to write and validate.
You're willing to criticize (justified) but unwilling to help rectify
the problem.  If you only want to complain, I think you've made your
point (a point that everyone is already aware of).

FYI, I have no dog in the hunt other than I believe stage is a welcome
update to ports.

John



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