Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 10:20:00 +0200 From: Marian Hettwer <MH@kernel32.de> To: Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu> Cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org, Allen <slackwarewolf@comcast.net> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Security Survey Message-ID: <4476BA30.2090607@kernel32.de> In-Reply-To: <p06230905c09a5acceffb@[128.113.24.47]> References: <20060523120100.37D2B16A54F@hub.freebsd.org> <20060523083944.H96736@eboyr.pbz> <20060523160051.GA78620@kierun.org> <44741A43.40302@kernel32.de> <20060524144537.46463a90@hydrocodone.org> <p06230905c09a5acceffb@[128.113.24.47]>
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Garance A Drosihn wrote: > At 2:45 PM -0400 5/24/06, Allen wrote: >> Did you just tell him to get another computer for each arch >> to have as a build machine??? >> >> Being a broke college student I don't think that's something >> I'd ever do to install updates on my boxes. I can't afford >> another computer just to build updates when every other OS >> I use does updates in another way.... > > > If you are a college student with a few machines that > you work with, then you can afford some downtime. > > Note that the person was talking about the problems of > doing source updates on TEN machines. If you own ten > machines, and if all of those ten machines must have zero > downtime and rock-solid reliability, then you really > have to find the money for an eleventh machine. That is ACK. That's what I was talking about :) At work we have roughly 900 Debian Linux servers, and frankly, the way of upgrading those boxes is pretty easy (apt-get update, apt-get upgrade). However, we still have build machines for custom packages and of course test machines to test updates... The point then is, of course, sometimes a buildworld is overkill and it would be great to have an easier way of upgrading, but still you need the "eleventh" machine for testing / reducing downtime / whatever. > > "Pity the poor college student, with their personally- > owned data center of 50 machines split across five > different architectures." Uh, no. I won't. Anyone > who can afford that much hardware has more money than > I do! > "me too" ;-) ./Marian -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFEdrougAq87Uq5FMsRAt1/AKDh1K5v4UqHnFcMyevFGHOTvvgHEgCcDA8q Mv6Y44brsN/v9Zrj57uIIBg= =iYr9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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