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Date:      Thu, 09 Nov 2000 09:08:54 -0800
From:      Drew Tomlinson <drewt@writeme.com>
To:        'Dan Nelson' <dnelson@emsphone.com>
Cc:        "'FreeBSD Questions (E-mail)'" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: ntpd "Synchronization Lost" Errors
Message-ID:  <BA5D0CE1CBB2D411B6AA00A0CC3F02390AF6FD@ldcmsx01.lc.ca.gov>
In-Reply-To: <20001109103846.A18298@dan.emsphone.com>

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Nelson [mailto:dnelson@emsphone.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 8:39 AM
> To: Drew Tomlinson
> Cc: 'FreeBSD Questions (E-mail)'
> Subject: Re: ntpd "Synchronization Lost" Errors
>
>
> In the last episode (Nov 09), Drew Tomlinson said:
> > From: Dan Nelson [mailto:dnelson@emsphone.com]
> > > What's more worrying is the fact that ntp is having to
> jump time by
> > > over .1 seconds every few hours.  Depending on exactly
> how recently
> > > you installed FreeBSD, ntp might still be trying to calculate your
> > > clock's drift.  What does "ntpdc -c kerninfo" print?
> >
> > I'm a newbie and just found out about ntp in Greg's book.  So I
> > attempted to set it up and it's been running for only a few days.
> >
> > I'm betting this is a problem, huh?
> >
> > 101 Blacksheep# ntpdc -c kerninfo
> > ntpdc: read: Connection refused
>
> That means that ntp isn't running..
>
> > So I assume this means that the NTP server I am pointing isn't
> > accepting my connection?  Here is my ntp.conf:
> >
> > 106 Blacksheep# cat ntp.conf
> > server          165.227.1.1     prefer  #ns.scruz.net
> (Santa Cruz, CA)
> > server          63.192.96.2             #ntp1.mainecoon.com
> (Quincy, CA)
> > server          63.192.96.3             #ntp2.mainecoon.com
> (Quincy, CA)
> > server          132.239.254.49          #ntp.ucsd.edu (San
> Diego, CA)
> >
> > driftfile       /etc/ntp.drift
> >
> > broadcast       192.168.0.255
> >
> > So then I try an update manually using ntpdate and it seems to work:
> >
> > 108 Blacksheep# ntpdate ns.scruz.net
> >  9 Nov 08:11:09 ntpdate[1438]: step time server 165.227.1.1
> offset -32.772205 sec
>
> Yow. an offset of 32 seconds is a whole lot.  What is the contents of
> /etc/ntp.drift?  If it's over 500 or less than -500, ntpd will have a
> hard time keeping your clock in synch because it drifts too fast.

145 Blacksheep# cat ntp.drift
-500.000

> I'd set up a cron job that fires every hour and runs
> "cat /etc/ntp.drift >> /var/log/ntp.drift", and check that log after a
> day or so so see what the trend is.

So is the ntp.drift file recalculated after every update?  I haven't gotten
to cron jobs yet but I guess there's no time like the present.  :)

I edited my ntp.conf file to point to a different server and restarted ntpd.
I received the following messages in my log file:

Nov  9 08:59:32 blacksheep ntpd[1546]: ntpd 4.0.99b Mon Nov  6 00:47:01 PST
2000
 (1)
Nov  9 08:59:32 blacksheep ntpd[1546]: using kernel phase-lock loop 2040
Nov  9 08:59:32 blacksheep ntpd[1546]: frequency initialized -500.000 from
/etc/
ntp.drift
Nov  9 08:59:32 blacksheep ntpd[1546]: using kernel phase-lock loop 2041

I don't know exactly what they mean but I didn't get them before.  Now I get
the following with ntpdc:

152 Blacksheep# ntpdc -c kerninfo
pll offset:           -0.00973327 s
pll frequency:        -500.000 ppm
maximum error:        0.536427 s
estimated error:      0.006899 s
status:               2001  pll nano
pll time constant:    6
precision:            1e-09 s
frequency tolerance:  496 ppm

So I assume the new server is accepting my requests?  Should I clear out the
drift file and restart everything?  If so, what are the steps?

Thanks again for your help.  I really appreciate it!!!

Drew


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