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Date:      Sun, 30 Oct 2005 17:58:19 +0000
From:      Martin Hepworth <maxsec@gmail.com>
To:        Csaba Henk <csaba-ml@creo.hu>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: backup strategies
Message-ID:  <72cf361e0510300958w33bf3u3f754e68794b858d@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <20051030134902.GG2911@beastie.creo.hu>
References:  <20051030134902.GG2911@beastie.creo.hu>

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Hi

On 10/30/05, Csaba Henk <csaba-ml@creo.hu> wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> We plan to set up a backup server.
>
> While the basic backup procedure is clear -- use some archiving utility
> like dump, tar, or cpio and send data to the backup server via ssh or a
> network mount -- there are many details which are unclear for me.
>
> The two biggest problems are:
>
> 1) What parts are to be backed up? If I backup the whole system, the
> backup disk will get full soon. You could say it's not necessary, and
> that only the valueable data should be backed up (and not those parts
> which are easy to re-create by means of a new installation). But, say,
> someone breaks into the machince. How could I reliably find out the
> Achilles heel she used to get in if I don't have a complete system
> backup? Or if she has a backdoor left behind?


Depends on what the risk you trying to mitigate with backup. Think of the
problems and how you would get around them. There are file consistency util=
s
you can run to see if root-kits etc have been installed.

2) How to schedule backups? I guess services should stop for the backup
> period as the backup could be unreliable or inconsistent if disk/file
> writes were going on during backup. It sounds as if I should drop to
> single user mode. Or is there a less drastic approach? And if I dropped
> to single user mode, I would lose control over the box for that period,
> as the box is accessed via ssh and sshd is also stopped in single user
> mode -- this sounds scary...


With FreeBSD 5.x and later you can snapshop the filesystem then use a
special 'dump' to backup that snapshot to the backup machine.

have a look at amanda and bacula for how they handle this and do some
research on different backup strategies and their risks and benfits wrt to
Unix systems - theres lots out there..

--
Martin


TYA.
>
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> Csaba Henk
>
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