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Date:      Wed, 13 Dec 2006 22:52:09 -0700
From:      Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org>
To:        Wes Peters <wes@opensail.org>
Cc:        cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, mjacob@FreeBSD.org, "David E. O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/amd64/conf GENERIC
Message-ID:  <4580E689.4070000@samsco.org>
In-Reply-To: <DEEEA0CE-4480-4015-9F51-50D0F48E65F0@opensail.org>
References:  <200612140357.kBE3vY0Q053458@repoman.freebsd.org> <4580CD6A.5090802@samsco.org> <20061213201031.T26658@ns1.feral.com> <4580D3BB.7060504@samsco.org> <20061213210116.P26879@ns1.feral.com> <4580DE4E.3080008@samsco.org> <DEEEA0CE-4480-4015-9F51-50D0F48E65F0@opensail.org>

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Wes Peters wrote:
> 
> On Dec 13, 2006, at 9:17 PM, Scott Long wrote:
> 
>> mjacob@freebsd.org wrote:
>>>> There wasn't a full switchover to SMP at 6.0 because an SMP kernel on a
>>>> UP system incurs a measurable runtime overhead, and we wanted to 
>>>> present
>>>> a system that showed the best of FreeBSD to people who wanted to run it
>>> But David's point is that most AMD64 boxes *are* SMP, not UP. Is that 
>>> wrong?
>>
>> 1. There are plenty of single core Opterons and Athlon64 chips still in
>> service.  Maybe AMD sells more SMP systems now than UP systems, but 
>> their prior sales of UP systems didn't magically disappear overnight.
>>
>> 2. The decision was made in spring of 2005, before dual core chips were
>> widely used.  While we knew that such chips would be available, we
>> wanted to have consistency for the transition.
>>
>> 3. This change, had it not been reverted, would have broken the
>> consistency in the major release stream that we were trying to achieve.
>> You spell it 'POLA', I spell it 'consistent'.  Either way, I think that
>> we both have a deep concern and appreciation for doing the right thing
>> and not pissing people off with surprises.
>>
>> 4. When 7.0 is released in 2007, the transition will be complete.
> 
> These are all fine points, Scott is right about everything *except* 
> calling David an idiot.  David, who is not an idiot, politely backed out 
> the change.  Please end this thread now.
> 

I respect Matt's questions on the topic, and I hope that I am providing
reasonable answers and conversation on it.

Scott




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