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Date:      Fri, 22 Sep 2000 12:17:11 -0600
From:      Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
To:        Neil Blakey-Milner <nbm@mithrandr.moria.org>
Cc:        Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>, security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: sysinstall DOESN'T ASK, dangerous defaults! (Was: Re: wats so  special about freeBSD?)
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At 02:34 AM 9/22/2000, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote:

>If the user doesn't say 'portmap_enable="NO"', the user isn't explicitly
>asking for portmap not to run.
>
>I'm investigating moving the portmap check to the NFS check.
>
>I've also got permission to add an inetd check.

Excellent! inetd could also be made dependent upon whether other
things were enabled.

>vi /etc/rc.conf

I wish it were that simple! These days, I also have to edit
inetd.conf (if I need it to run), plus many other configuration
files. And load important ports. And recompile the kernel.
And....

Doing it right takes a lot more time than I'd like.

>The "defaults" these days leave very little running.  Of course, if you
>actually _contributed_, we'd do these things faster, so you wouldn't
>have to whine constantly.

My reason for not contributing code is not that I can't (though I am
really an assembly language specialist and avoid C like the plague).
It's territoriality. Whenever I've tried, the "owner" of that bit of
code or that section of the OS has acted as if I have invaded his 
territory. So, I've made suggestions and hoped that the people who
want to maintain those parts would follow through.

--Brett



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