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Date:      Thu, 8 Feb 2001 02:57:35 -0800
From:      "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
To:        "Jason F Wells" <jason+freebsd@routermonkey.com>, <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: Keyboard detection in 4.2-RELEASE, 4.2-STABLE
Message-ID:  <004601c091bd$f1e161a0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>
In-Reply-To: <20010207101923.B6097@fry.routermonkey.com>

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jason F Wells
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 9:19 AM
> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Re: Keyboard detection in 4.2-RELEASE, 4.2-STABLE
>
>
>
> I'm aware of the risks of hot-plugging; I've had very few problems
> considering the number of servers I've worked on. I've had far worse
> luck with serial cables than keyboards.
>

If you want to take risks that's your business, but before anyone
else does let me just reprint the relevant section of the
serial port standard (RS232) here:

"The generator is designed to withstand an open-circuit (unconnected)
condition, or short-circuit condition between its signal conductor and any
other signal conductor, including ground, without sustaining damage to
itself or causing damage to any associated circuitry. The receiver is also
designed to accept any signal voltage within the range of ±25 volts without
sustaining damage."

Basically you can short out the serial port without damaging it.  The
keyboard ports and PS/2 ports are an entirely different matter because
they are unstandardized and the manufacturer has no obligation to put
any kind of protection circuitry on the keyboard or PS/2 ports.

This also means that if you have had a serial port burned out by
hot plugging your legally within the law to return the computer
as a defect - because the port on it is not compliant to the
published standard.

I know for myself I've never seen a serial port burned out by
hot plugging or by a messed up switchbox, but I've seen keyboard
ports ruined this way.

Ted Mittelstaedt                      tedm@toybox.placo.com
Author of:          The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide
Book website:         http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com





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