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Date:      Wed, 15 Aug 2001 15:32:57 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.ORG>
To:        Gavin Grabias <gaving@enter.net>
Cc:        security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/etc inetd.conf
Message-ID:  <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1010815153204.81642Q-100000@fledge.watson.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0108151331340.27240-100000@grabes2.enter.net>

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On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Gavin Grabias wrote:

> > Good point, but thats a little different.  Warning those who care
> > (subscribers of the list) about security advisories is MUCH different
> > than making the OS mute because a percentage of the installers can't
> > figure out (or don't know that they SHOULD figure out) how to turn off
> > sendmail, telnet, etc.  It just won't save the experienced users any
> > time to have them disabled, and it won't stop the 'clueless' from being
> > just that.
> 
> Security is starting to sound like a bug instead of a feature for
> FreeBSD.  We are arguing about whether users can use a text editor to
> edit their inetd.conf.  The secure approach would be to disable all
> services by default.  If the user wants "features" make him/her read
> about them and educate themselves.  Then they can make the decision as
> to whether they want the service enabled. 

This is what FreeBSD 4.4 does with the inetd network services.  There's an
on-going debate about how best to handle this WRT sendmail, as local mail
delivery is required for some internal base system functionality (vi
recovery files, cron'd events, etc).

Robert N M Watson             FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project
robert@fledge.watson.org      NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services



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