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Date:      Wed, 27 Jan 2016 15:51:53 +0100
From:      John Marino <freebsd.contact@marino.st>
To:        Mathieu Arnold <mat@FreeBSD.org>, marino@freebsd.org, Erwin Lansing <erwin@FreeBSD.org>, Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r407270 - head/ports-mgmt/portmaster
Message-ID:  <56A8D989.7070601@marino.st>
In-Reply-To: <56A8D314.2060701@marino.st>
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On 1/27/2016 3:24 PM, John Marino wrote:
> On 1/27/2016 3:14 PM, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
>>
>>
>> +--On 27 janvier 2016 15:04:56 +0100 John Marino
>> <freebsd.contact@marino.st> wrote:
>> | On 1/27/2016 2:53 PM, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
>> |> +--On 27 janvier 2016 09:29:55 +0100 John Marino
>> |> 
>> |> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/committers-guide/rules.html
>> |> 
>> |> 5. Any disputed change must be backed out pending resolution of the
>> |> dispute if requested by a maintainer. Security related changes may
>> |> override a maintainer's wishes at the Security Officer's discretion.
>> |> 
>> | 
>> | Okay, let's play lawyer then.
>> | 
>> | "request by a maintainer".
>>
>> The ports tree is the responsibility of portmgr, henceforce, the global
>> maintainer of the ports tree, is portmgr,  Bryan said it was a bad idea,
>> and Erwin asked you to revert it. Both are members of portmgr.
> 
> Er, that's not what Bryan said.  He said there should be a discussion on it.
> 
> And this definition of "maintainer" has never been mentioned before.
> Should I reassign all PRs of unmaintained ports in bugzilla to portmgr?
>  according to this definition, yes, that's what should happen.  "Be
> careful what you wish for" comes to mind.
> 
>>
>> So, revert it.
>>
> 
> What is the forward plan?
> 
> If you or edwin revert it, I will not start a commit war.  I'll respect
> it and not deprecate again, but demand a decision be taken.  This is a
> principle thing for me.
> 
> 

Okay, I'll revert it with a commit message that records my protest.





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