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Date:      Fri, 07 Jul 2000 16:11:11 -0700 (PDT)
From:      John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.ORG>
To:        Chris Dillon <cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us>
Cc:        jfb@visi.com, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: New system for FreeBSD -- pls advise
Message-ID:  <XFMail.000707161111.jhb@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0007071709080.33618-100000@mail.wolves.k12.mo.us>

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On 07-Jul-00 Chris Dillon wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, John Baldwin wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On 06-Jul-00 Chris Dillon wrote:
>> > On Thu, 6 Jul 2000 jfb@visi.com wrote:
>> > 
>> >> Hello, all,
>> >> 
>> >> I'm looking at getting a brand new box at home, and want to make sure
>> >> that I don't end up with components that will preclude me from using
>> >> my OS of choice.  
>> >> 
>> >> Currently, my hardware selections are as follows:
>> >> 
>> >> 3Com 3c905b ethernet
>> > 
>> > One word: yuck.  Get an Intel EtherExpress PRO 10/100B.
>> 
>> Why yuck?  Both of these ethernet cards work quite well.
> 
> I've just had very bad experiences with the cards in the Windows
> arena.  3COM also thinks they should charge more money for products
> that aren't even close to par with competitors, yet consumers seem
> very ignorant of this and I like to point it out.  Try comparing the
> price/performance/features of a 3COM SuperStack II 3300, an HP
> ProCurve 4000M or 2424M, and a Cisco Catalyst 2924M-XL.  The 3COM
> SuperStack II costs more than either of those other switches, yet
> doesn't even come close to the performance/features of the other two.  
> As for the NICs, everywhere I look the 3COM NIC costs more than the
> Intel, yet the Intel NIC has added advantatges such as WOL, an
> integrated boot ROM, and much slimmer Windows drivers that work for
> the whole NIC family.

In regards to these two network cards (fxp and xl), both perform
equally well under FreeBSD at least, so perhaps 3com's driver is
just more brain-damaged under Windows, which could be a problem.
However, other products are unrelated in this.  Also, both the
Intel Etherexpress Management adapter and the 3c905c ship with a
PXE ROM BIOS for booting, however, the ROM on the Intel adapters
is buggy and must be flashed to a newer version before it will work
properly.  3Com's BIOS works out of the box.  Also, if he is buying
a package deal, it may not save him money to switch network cards.
Finally, that card will run happily on several platforms.

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