Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 02:42:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Nowlin <mike@argos.org> To: James Wyatt <jwyatt@rwsystems.net> Cc: freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeSSH Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.05.9910140229320.19721-100000@jason.argos.org> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9910140111280.75869-100000@bsdie.rwsystems.net>
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> > > >actually, i don't think this is a good idea. there are still a few (very > > > >few.. i hope) networks and LAN's that use UUCP for mail transfer and such. > > > > Why are you hoping for very few users of UUCP? It works quite well, and is > > very low maintance. People who have intermittant connectivity have good > > reason to still use it. I use it in a couple instances over FTP, because it > > has spooling and logging facilities built in. (This really should move to -net or something...) If we're going to entertain the idea of making UUCP a port, we should entertain the idea of replacing it with something equally suited to moving files over a modem, and FTP+PPP doesn't qualify -- too many points of failure. I hate to admit it, but C-Kermit comes to mind. You need to have SOMETHING in there that lets you do two key things - move files, and talk directly to a serial port. Minicom works, but it relies on also having zmodem, etc. installed as well. As the maintainer of 200+ FreeBSD/Linux/Coherent (yuk!) systems spread across northern Ohio in the harshest environments I've ever seen, (nursing homes -- they make steel mills look clean :) ), having these gut-level utilities as part of a base install is really handy when some patient pours his calcium-and-sugar-rich dietary supplement into the power supply fan... Not to mention that Coherent doesn't do TCP/IP (but they DID finally get X working before they went under...:) ) mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message
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