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Date:      Mon, 4 Aug 2003 12:46:08 +0200
From:      Eirik Oeverby <ltning@anduin.net>
To:        Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Lucent IBSS mode doesn't work in -CURRENT?
Message-ID:  <20030804124608.4188d92e.ltning@anduin.net>
In-Reply-To: <20030804094554.GL95375@wantadilla.lemis.com>
References:  <20030731045030.GH33447@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20030731093031.17deae97.ltning@anduin.net> <20030804044432.GV95375@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20030803.235155.123970624.imp@bsdimp.com> <a0600120abb53d8cdb296@[10.0.1.2]> <20030804094554.GL95375@wantadilla.lemis.com>

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Sorry, I missed the point that it had once worked.
However, the point still needs to be made that in the past I have had
varying success with various firmware revisions, but the latest revision
is the only one that has worked everywhere I have tried it.

Good thing I didn't install the kernel I built yesterday, if that means
my wi-driven lucent card would stop working =)

To the maintainers: Take your time. Better do it right than do it quick
and dirty. It works in 4.x, and 5.x is not considered stable yet so if
anyone expects everything to work they are in error.

/Eirik

On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 19:15:54 +0930
Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org> wrote:

> On Monday,  4 August 2003 at 11:37:44 +0200, Brad Knowles wrote:
> > At 11:51 PM -0600 2003/08/03, M. Warner Losh wrote:
> >
> >> In message: <20030804044432.GV95375@wantadilla.lemis.com>
> >>             "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <grog@freebsd.org> writes:
> >>
> >>> On Thursday, 31 July 2003 at  9:30:31 +0200, Eirik Oeverby wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Oh and btw.. Get the *latest* firmware onto all your cards. That
> >is>>> essential for anything to work right at all..
> >>>
> >>> That sounds wrong to me.  If it worked before, and it doesn't now,
> >>> that's not the fault of the firmware.
> >>
> >> Quit harping on it, ok.  We know there's a bug and carping like
> >this> makes me less willing to find and fix it.
> >
> > 	I'm confused.  I agree that I have sometimes found Greg to be a
> > bit annoying, but it seems to me that he's asking a perfectly
> > legitimate question -- if things worked fine in the past (including
> > the firmware versions at the time), and they don't work now, then
> > why is a firmware update needed?
> >
> > 	I would ask:
> >
> > 		What changed so that things broke, and why can't we go back
> > 		to the way things worked before?
> 
> I think you're misunderstanding Warner.  He's not disagreeing.  My
> message wasn't directed at Warner, it was directed at Eirik.
> 
> Greg
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