Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:30:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Clarke <marcus@marcuscom.com> To: Daniel Grunblatt <daniel@grunblatt.com.ar> Cc: =?iso-8859-1?B?TeFyY2lvIERhdmlk?= <marciofdavid@hotmail.com>, <culverk@wam.umd.edu>, <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: FreeBSD ? What kind of OS is that ? Message-ID: <20010621112855.U27505-100000@shumai.marcuscom.com> In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10106211157030.6655-100000@ambar.ofermundo.com.ar>
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Well, I'd like to make everyone's FreeBSD experience (or lack of experience) a good one. I've been using FreeBSD for 6 years now, and I really believe in this project. If we start flaming everyone, we'll turn into another Linux users list. Joe Clarke On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Daniel Grunblatt wrote: > Is it really usefull to answer to such an asshole? why don't you just tel= l > him that freebsd sucks and he must stay as far as he can from it? > > On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Joe Clarke wrote: > > > A screenshot of FreeBSD is somewhat useless. Bring up a bash shell in > > BeOS, and you've got a good idea. However, like with Linux, there are > > many different X11 desktops (like KDE, Gnome, xfce), and window manager= s > > (afterstep, windowmaker, twm, mwm, sawfish, enlightenment, etc.). Goin= g > > to any one of their pages will show you screenshots of what those > > interfaces can do. > > > > Joe Clarke > > > > On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, [iso-8859-1] M=E1rcio David wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanx everyone for the replys. > > > > > > Maybe I'll check this FreeBSD someday, when i have some free time (an= d a > > > free HD... dont wanna have 2 OSs in the same HD..) > > > > > > About the MacOS X, well, i had an iMac 233 and had lots of hardware > > > problems (most of them in my monitor ! Just after about 1 year using > > > it...). And Macs are REALLY expansive in my country... I can buy abou= t 3 > > > good pcs with the money... > > > > > > I'll still with Windows and BeOS for now... > > > > > > Just one more thing.. Can you give me a link for some FreeBSD > > > screenshots ? > > > > > > Gotta go. cya. > > > > > > MD > > > > > > >To add to Ken's comments, if you want to use a really nice, and easy= OS > > > >with FreeBSD under the covers, I recommend Mac OS X. I know you'll h= ave > > > >to buy new hardware for it, but it will definitely satisfy most of w= hat > > > >you want. The GUI comes up out of the box, networking is a snap, and > > > root > > > >is disabled ;-). > > > > > > > >While I persoanlly love FreeBSD, I'd hate to recommend it saying it = will > > > >be the OS of your dreams. If you're looking for something like Windo= ws, > > > >FreeBSD is probably not for you. > > > > > > > >Joe Clarke > > > > > > > >On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I'm using M$ Win ME right now. I tried windows 95/98/ME/2K, Mac= OS, > > > > > > Linux (many distributions), BeOS, and some others OSs ! hehe We= ll, > > > > > > looking at all those OSs, I decided to continue with my old M$ > > > > > > OS........ But now I wanna something new ! Something diferent..= =2E > > > not > > > > > > just a new stupid linux distribution that takes 5 hours to make= it > > > > > > work and about a month to make the damn internet work. So, i wo= uld > > > > > > like to know if FreeBSD is a DIFERENT OS, or it's just another > > > > > > "Linux-like" OS. Exemple : Will i see a stupid prompt asking me= to > > > > > > type "root" when i turn on my computer ? Will i have to use wic= h > > > > > > Graphical interface ? (please, say it's not KDE...) Guess that'= s > > > all. > > > > > > > > > > OK, lets answer your questions. > > > > > > > > > > 1) As for ease of use: it's not windows, if you took 5 hours to g= et > > > linux > > > > > working, (any distribution) and a month to get the internet worki= ng, > > > then > > > > > FreeBSD will most likely be harder for you. If you want ease of u= se > > > stick > > > > > with winblows or BeOS. Just for comparison though, once you get > > > everything > > > > > working, you'll find that you can install and configure a system = in > > > less > > > > > than an hour, sometimes 30 minutes. (on my machine, that's faster > > > than > > > > > windows installs, and I have only ever installed FreeBSD from the > > > network, > > > > > never from CD) > > > > > > > > > > 2) Linux-like is the wrong way to put it. FreeBSD is UNIX-based, > > > Linux is > > > > > a UNIX clone, so Linux is UNIX-Like, and FreeBSD is UNIX-based. > > > > > > > > > > 3) When you first install the machine, you will see a login promp= t, > > > this > > > > > is expected behavior for any UNIX based or UNIX like operating > > > system, and > > > > > it's not stupid, it's just not windows as I said before. > > > > > > > > > > 4) You can choose which Graphical Interface is installed when you= 're > > > > > installing the operating system. KDE-2, Gnome, Windowmaker, etc..= =2E > > > it's up > > > > > to you. > > > > > > > > > > 5) to me it seems like your idea of a good os is one that is easy= and > > > > > doesn't crash much. Well I've never had FreeBSD crash, and it's h= ard > > > to > > > > > learn at first, but once you learn it, it becomes easier, and mor= e > > > logical > > > > > than windows. (I can fix a FreeBSD problem in minutes usually, mo= st > > > often > > > > > without even rebooting the machine, where my windows expert frien= ds > > > often > > > > > fix their problems by rebooting the machine) > > > > > > > > > > Ken > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________= ___________ > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.= com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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