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Date:      Mon, 19 Jun 2000 05:59:00 -0700
From:      Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group <Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca>
To:        Steve Roome <steve@sse0691.bri.hp.com>
Cc:        Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group <Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca>, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: ATA DMA Problem 
Message-ID:  <200006191259.e5JCxkO75793@cwsys.cwsent.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 19 Jun 2000 12:22:57 BST." <20000619122255.A27262@moose.bri.hp.com> 

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In message <20000619122255.A27262@moose.bri.hp.com>, Steve Roome writes:
> On Sat, Jun 17, 2000 at 08:06:22AM -0700, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Gro
> up wrote:
> > 1.  Possible heat problem, bs=1024k probably drives the disk harder than
> >     the default bs=512.  Interestingly, 3.4 didn't experience this 
> > problem.
> >     Maybe 4.0's new ATA driver is more efficient, driving the disk 
> > harder
> >     and causing the disk's controller board to run a little hotter than 
> > it
> >     did under 3.4.  (most)
> 
> This seems unlikely and I've had similar western digital disks that
> used to be used very heavily without any problems for a prolonged
> periods without any trouble.

So do I, however this disk is 

> 
> > 2.  Possible disk/controller/DMA timing issue, e.g. hardware problem
> >     excluding HDA failure.
> > 
> > 3.  Possible FreeBSD ATA/DMA driver bug.  (least)
> > 
> 
> Other things to consider :
>   4.  You actually have a bad block.

Why then would this error only occur with a block size of 1024k?  It 
doesn't occur with block sizes of 512 bytes or 64k.

> 
>   5.  You're drive/controller/driver combination can't actually perform
> to spec, and with UDMA at full pelt the disk ends up getting back to the
> controller with an "I can't keep up", which is interpreted as a hard read
> error.

Point 5 = point 2 above.

I have another WD disk in the system (ad0) attached to the other IDE 
controller.  It doesn't experience these problems.  Its data transfer 
rate is 6.5 MB/s.  The disk with the error has a data transfer rate of 
7.5 MB/s.  Swapping the disks might be the only way to pinpoint the 
problem.


Regards,                       Phone:  (250)387-8437
Cy Schubert                      Fax:  (250)387-5766
Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team   Internet:  Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca
Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA
Province of BC





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