Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:33:06 -0600 From: Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org> To: Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> Cc: Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>, Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in>, "Victor R. Cardona" <vcardona@home.com>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Stallman stalls again Message-ID: <15013.18818.990246.193990@guru.mired.org> In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010306131533.046dfc60@localhost> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010306122244.04477f00@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010306092612.00b79f00@localhost> <20010305134937.K80474@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010305114235.046da630@localhost> <20010305200017.D80474@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010305123951.04604b20@localhost> <20010305205030.G80474@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010305125259.00cfdae0@localhost> <20010305142108.A17269@marx.marvic.chum> <4.3.2.7.2.20010306011342.045fb360@localhost> <20010306081025.A22143@marx.marvic.chum> <4.3.2.7.2.20010306131533.046dfc60@localhost>
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Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> types: > At 12:56 PM 3/6/2001, Mike Meyer wrote: > >> I cannot understand why you are attacking me for doing so. The > >> only motivations I can imagine are (a) that you share Stallman's > >> spite and hatred; (b) that you've been taken in by the propaganda > >> he has spread to further his agenda; or (c) you think you have > >> something to gain within the social group of this mailing list > >> by attacking me. > >Resorting to mud-slinging just weakens your argument. > > I'm not resorting to anything of the sort. Read the above again, > and you'll see that I am, rather, asking Mr. Siddharthan why HE > is mudslinging. I don't see a single question in the statement you quoted. Instead, I see you accusing Mr. Siddharthan of spite and hate, being gullible, simply being malicious, or possibly some combination of the three. All of those are insulting, and constitute mud-slinging. You do imply the question by suggesting reasons, but it would have been more seemly to simply *ask*, rather than throw up a barrage of insulting suggestions. You also quoted me out of context, as my original quoted you saying: > > Also untrue. I don't "hate" Richard Stallman, though I do believe > > that what he is doing is unethical. It is Stallman who is filled > > with hatred -- the result of the trauma documented so well in > > Steven Levy's book "Hackers" and in Stallman's own writings -- > > and is causing much harm. I'm speaking out against that hatred > > and malice. Ethics - or lack thereof - are a mudslingers favorite target. Saying that someone is acting out of hatred and malice in an era when hate crimes draw special punishments is mud-slinging of the vilest sort. That your arguments against Mr. Stallman's position seem to inevitably lead to this kind of personal attack on him may well have something to do with *why* people accuse you of hating him. <mike -- Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org> http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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