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Date:      Sun, 15 Jul 2001 03:30:02 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Brian Somers <brian@Awfulhak.org>
To:        freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: kern/28974: PPPoE software fails when SOCK_RAW employed 
Message-ID:  <200107151030.f6FAU2W12065@freefall.freebsd.org>

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The following reply was made to PR kern/28974; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Brian Somers <brian@Awfulhak.org>
To: Brad Laue <brad@brad-x.com>
Cc: Brian Somers <brian@Awfulhak.org>,
	FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG, roman@xpert.com, brian@Awfulhak.org
Subject: Re: kern/28974: PPPoE software fails when SOCK_RAW employed 
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 11:22:33 +0100

 Hi,
 
 I've marked hping as BROKEN for the time being as email addressed to 
 the maintainer bounces.
 
 I'm not (yet) convinced that this is a PPPoE problem, but I'm willing 
 to be proven wrong.  It's possible that nmap doesn't work with 
 POINT2POINT interfaces but does with broadcast interfaces.  I'll have 
 a look at installing nmap myself in the near future and follow up.
 
 Cheers.
 
 > Hping is an example of the tool I used to further troubleshoot the
 > problem, not the problem itself; PPPoE is definitely broken, and has been
 > reported as such on several occasions, but in the wrong place.
 > 
 > The problem is that what I used as a diagnostic is itself flawed to the
 > point of not working with PPPoE based connections.
 > 
 > I would still like to further understand why programs such as nmap
 > are having such a difficult time working with a networking
 > implementation that should by all rights be transparent.
 > 
 > My only surmise to date is that since NetGraph is dealing with Raw
 > Sockets to encapsulate PPPoE, it is interfering with userspace programs'
 > ability to do same.
 > 
 > I am however glad to have been able to point out the problematic port,
 > being overproductive is a good thing. :)
 > 
 > Here is an example of the problem as related by another person. I've had
 > this identical issue, and have not yet corrected it:
 > 
 > http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&ic=1&th=7866b9324b3e2b97,2&seekm=002e01c0b710%24d3306da0%242ac67fd8_blah2%40ns.sol.net#p
 > 
 > The surmise is misconfigured libcap, but this is nullified by the user's
 > claim that nmap functions over interfaces not covered by PPPoE, also my
 > experience.
 > 
 > Please continue to consider this a PPPoE issue, but let me know if you'd
 > like me to submit a PR regarding hping itself.
 > 
 > Thanks,
 > Brad
 
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