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Date:      Thu, 23 Jan 2003 17:43:14 -0500
From:      Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu>
To:        Peter Wemm <peter@wemm.org>, John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Paul Richards <paul@freebsd-services.com>, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/i386 identcpu.c initcpu.c locore.s
Message-ID:  <p05200f10ba561c6a8e5c@[128.113.24.47]>
In-Reply-To: <20030123213408.2B94A2A8A5@canning.wemm.org>
References:  <20030123213408.2B94A2A8A5@canning.wemm.org>

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>  > > Is it a good idea to do this in 4?
>>
>>  The simple HT support is a very small patch (see
>  > http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/patches/htt.patch) and is
>  > something that several people/companies that use 4.x need.
>  >
>  > > We should stop moving new features into 4 for 2 reasons,
>  > > a) I've always been against feature development of -stable,
>  > > but b) we need to encourage take-up of our latest branch
>  > > and the less "modern" 4 is the more likely people will be
>  > > to migrate around 5.2. The SMP work won't be such a huge
>  > > draw since so few people have SMP machines.
>>
>  > Most if not all of the new P4's coming out do have HT support
>  > nowadays.
>
>Yes, and all the SMP P4 Xeons have it and have had it for a
>while.  HT isn't exactly new, it has been in production
>systems for months.

I have lost track of who said what here, but I'm willing to
chime in anyway...

In general I agree with the reasons given for not moving new
features into 4-stable, particularly now that 5.0 is official,
but in the case of hyperthreading I don't see that as "a new
feature" so much as "support for hardware".  If the update to
support that hardware is not very risky or disruptive, then I
would prefer to see it added to the 4-stable branch.  We (RPI)
installed a new machine about five months ago, using redhat 7.3
(which is almost 9 months old by now), and rh73 understood
hyperthreading.  It would be nice if the upcoming freebsd-4.8
could also understand it.

-- 
Garance Alistair Drosehn            =   gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu
Senior Systems Programmer           or  gad@freebsd.org
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute    or  drosih@rpi.edu

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