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Date:      Sun, 7 May 2000 13:59:24 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Chuck Robey <chuckr@picnic.mat.net>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@village.org>
Cc:        Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com>, Mike Smith <msmith@FreeBSD.ORG>, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: [OT] Finding people with GSM phones (was Re: GPS heads up ) 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0005071358090.79947-100000@picnic.mat.net>
In-Reply-To: <200005070549.XAA68658@harmony.village.org>

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On Sat, 6 May 2000, Warner Losh wrote:

> With CDMA, you can get a distance very easily.  The phones know what
> time it is, or CDMA doesn't work at all.  That helps a lot.  Much of
> GPS's work is knowing what time it is.  Since the phone knows what
> time it is, they can do all kinds of calculations and round trip
> things to get the distance.  From there, you have a 120degreep arch to
> worry about.  Since CDMA towers have 3 antennas, you likely get use
> slight phase differences between them to narrow it down further.  The
> CDMA folks at qualcomm tend to be smart (although as they have gotten
> larger, this tendacy is weaker than it was), so I wouldn't be
> surprised if they thought real hard and were able to do something
> simple in the end because it happened to fall out of the equasions.

Curious about that, I haven't been following it too closely, but I know
cdma works on codes, not timing ... how do they get timing (other than bit
clock recovery)?

> 
> Warner
> 
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