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Date:      Sun, 8 Mar 1998 13:55:33 +1030
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        Ben Goodwin <ben@hamsterville.ultranet.com>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: System hangs with 2.2.5-RELEASE
Message-ID:  <19980308135533.08835@freebie.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <199803090312.WAA00324@poseidon.hamsterville.ultranet.com>; from Ben Goodwin on Sun, Mar 08, 1998 at 10:12:15PM -0500
References:  <199803090312.WAA00324@poseidon.hamsterville.ultranet.com>

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On Sun,  8 March 1998 at 22:12:15 -0500, Ben Goodwin wrote:
> I've got about 24 hours of experience with FreeBSD at this point,
> so I'm not quite up-to-date with everything _quite_ yet (What's with
> this need for people to put these little "I'm new" disclaimers in their
> messages anyway? :)

It tells people like me to explain things in a little more detail than
I might otherwise do.

> In any case, I'm running 2.2.5-RELEASE on a p200MMX, asus motherboard,
> 1 32 meg sdram, a diamond stealth 2500, and a maxtor 4.3 gig ultradma
> IDE drive. This is the second time my machine has flat out hung (mouse dies,
> numlock doesn't toggle, etc) while using navigator 4 in the distributed
> XFree86 (i've made no mods to what comes with 225R).  I'm not sure a) why
> (this is new hardware, so there's feasibly something wrong with it; FreeBSD
> is the hardware's first OS) 

Yes, that would have been my first thought even if the machine had
been running Microsoft for a while.

> and b) how to find out what's going on.. IE can I force some sort of
> crash dump at the bootloader?  Run some sort of debugging? etc

It's difficult.  Experience points to the RAM or the chipset setup,
but of course there's also the possibility that there's some
incompatibility with the display board.  Since you appear to have
enough space, why not try our favourite way of bringing out bugs:
rebuild the entire system with 'make world'.  First, though, you need
to install all the sources.  If your RAM is bad, you'll typically see
the compiler dying with various traps (signals 6, 10 or 11 are the
most popular).

Greg


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