Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 11:20:47 -0700 (PDT) From: "Neal E. Westfall" <nwestfal@directvinternet.com> To: George Reid <chat@FreeBSD.ORG> Cc: Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>, Juli Mallett <jmallett@FreeBSD.ORG>, Joshua Lee <yid@softhome.net>, <dave@jetcafe.org> Subject: Re: Why did evolution fail? Message-ID: <20020909104805.F9219-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20020909020508.A2152@FreeBSD.org>
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George, I wonder if you are truly interested in this subject. Are you willing to listen if I can offer you resolutions to these supposed contradictions? Don't you think that we ought to give the Bible the benefit of the doubt, and interpret it in such a way as to not make it blatantly contradict itself if possible? Isn't that they way we would treat just about any other historical or literary document? More to the point, does context have any relevence when interpreting Biblical passages, not to mention the fact that God speaks to us in anthropomorphic language? Moreover, are you at all familiar with the science of textual criticism? The doctrine of infallibility does not preclude the possibility of copyist errors, and the science of textual criticism allows us to piece together what was probably originally meant in the cases of such texts as II Kings 8:26 vis a vis II Chronicles 22:2. For example, the NASB translates both texts as 22 years. The discrepency is probably most likely due to a copyist error rather than an intentional contradiction. The similarity of the numerical letters (bm) forty-two, and (bk) twenty-two lend credence to this, as well as the fact that some copies of the Septuagint and Syriac and Arabic versions read twenty-two in both passages. Don't you think this is a reasonable explanation, instead of insisting on a contradiction? On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, George Reid wrote: > On Sun, Sep 08, 2002 at 05:46:00PM -0700, Neal E. Westfall wrote: > > [Bogus From:, see below] > > > In addition, Islam falsifies itself, since the Koran recognizes > > the Torah and the Christian scriptures as true revelations from God, yet > > claims that Christ did not raise from the dead. The Koran contradicts > > itself. > > The Bible contradicts itself: > > Malachi 3:6 "For I am the Lord; I change not." > Exodus 32:14 "And the Lord repented of the evil which he thought to do > unto his people." > > Exodus 34:6-7 "...The Lord God, merciful and gracious,...that will by no > means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the > children..." > Ezekiel 18:20 "The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father." > > James 1:13 "...God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man." > Genesis 22:1 "And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt > Abraham." > > John 8:14 "Though I bear witness of myself, yet my witness is true." > John 5:31 "If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true." > > John 1:18 "No man hath seen God at any time." > Genesis 32:30 "For I have seen God face to face." > > II Kings 8:26 "Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign." > II Chronicles 22:2 "Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign." > > II Samuel 6:23 "Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no child unto > the day of her death." > II Samuel 21:8 "...the five sons of Michal the daughter of Saul." > > This thread has degenerated to the point of being uninteresting and mildly > offensive to me. Academic theological debates interest me: arguments > about the One True Religion do not. Hence I have removed myself from the > thread. Please don't re-add me. Plunk. Why be so offended? Neal To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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