Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 00:57:36 -0800 From: Peter Wemm <peter@wemm.org> To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Cc: Gerald Pfeifer <gerald@pfeifer.com> Subject: Re: AMD64 and lang/gcc3x on -CURRENT Message-ID: <200402220057.36903.peter@wemm.org> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.58.0402180933140.19109@acrux.dbai.tuwien.ac.at> References: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0402162226320.14531-100000@wn4.sci.kun.nl> <Pine.BSF.4.58.0402180933140.19109@acrux.dbai.tuwien.ac.at>
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On Wednesday 18 February 2004 12:37 am, Gerald Pfeifer wrote: > On Mon, 16 Feb 2004, Adriaan de Groot wrote: > > On Mon, 16 Feb 2004, Gerald Pfeifer wrote: > >> *** Configuration amd64-portbld-freebsd5.2 not supported > >> Configure in /tmp/a/ports/lang/gcc33/work/build/gcc failed, > >> exiting. and my gut tells me someone renamed x86_64 to amd64 > >> somewhere without making proper adjustment in upstream packages or > >> something like that. > > > > From things David and/or Peter have written I've gathered the > > following: > > > > 1) AMD didn't give the platform an official name till fairly late > > 2) Some folks chose amd64 > > 3) Later the muttonheads at the FSF chose x86_64 > > And right they were. See yesterdays press announcement by Intel. That sequence of events isn't quite right. AMD originally came up with x86-64. When Microsoft got going on the port, they said "that name sucks to type, how about amd64? We're NOT using x86=64". And so it became "amd64" or AMD64. And FWIW, I agree. x86_64 is the worst possible name to type. I suspect the x86-64 name was chosen to make it a less bitter pill for Intel to pick it up (after all, thats what cross licensing agreements are for). However, Intel haven't chosen either of the two names.. They've done their own one. "IA-32e" was mentioned several times at the IDF this week. The preview winxp-64 ISO released from microsoft 2 weeks ago has got a hal.dll that does a strcmp for "AuthenticAMD" and "GenuineIntel". (see for yourself, do a cabextract on /amd64/hal.dl_). All over the system, from top to bottom, its called 'amd64' - except for the top level human visible stuff. I'll be suprised if they do a global search/replace at this stage, especially since their last few compiler releases etc know thats what its called and use amd64 in their ifdefs. -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5
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