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Date:      Mon, 23 Oct 1995 14:31:47 -0500 (CDT)
From:      Joe Greco <jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com>
To:        jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard)
Cc:        hackers@freebsd.org, ache@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: startslip isn't just broken - it's EVIL!
Message-ID:  <199510231931.OAA02068@brasil.moneng.mei.com>
In-Reply-To: <521.814475958@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Oct 23, 95 12:19:18 pm

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> I've seen some bogus software in my day, but this one really tears
> it..
> 
> Not only does it have absolutely no concept of setting the VJ
> compression flags, but it has no provisions for multiple setup
> strings!  Freefall doesn't deal with my TA correctly and whenever I
> connect I don't get a login banner - I have to hit return first (this
> is an oft-reported bit of FreeBSD braindamage - any plans to fix it
> someday?).  Unfortunately, startslip is too stupid to cope with the
> idea of actually sending a return, much less a user defined string, if
> it doesn't get the prompt it's expecting.  It just waits around
> forever.  Bleah!

Hmmm, never seen that.  Are you using full hardware handshaking?

> Then there's the little cuteness of having changed the flags
> completely and utterly between 2.1 and current - any explanation for
> that decision?
> 
> I've added VJ compression support to sliplogin, but these other
> problems I've been having with it in the wake of making those changes
> (I can't even *test* them because the friggin' thing won't log in!!)
> make me think that startslip doesn't need to be improved, it needs to
> be re-written from scratch and I may just do that right now..

Yes, I never built up the ambition to fix it right.  I kept patching it but
my recent sets of patches never seemed to show up after the ones I submitted
for 2.0R...

... Joe

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