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Date:      Sun, 29 Nov 1998 11:42:45 +1030
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        Jonathan Michaels <jlm@caamora.com.au>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: sig11 failures only with xwindows apps
Message-ID:  <19981129114245.U6182@freebie.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <19981129112609.A12998@caamora.com.au>; from jonathan michaels on Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 11:26:09AM %2B1100
References:  <19981129112609.A12998@caamora.com.au>

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On Sunday, 29 November 1998 at 11:26:09 +1100, jonathan michaels wrote:
> hello all,
>
> i've been using freebsd for several years now and have just started to use
> xfree86 as my "gui interface".
>
> my network has an i486dx33 with 16 mb and adaptec-1542b, this is used
> primarily as teh gateway/router host from which i network here. this is
> stable and likes freebsd, of teh two 'working hosts', both intel powered
> machines,
>
> p5-133, pci buslogic bt-958, 64 mb dram, smc pci 10 mb nic, stb powergraph
> p6-180, pci adaptec aha-2940, 128 mb dram, smc 10-100 mb nic, matrox mil2
>
> both of these machines run textmode (cli) flawlessly, but when i go to x
> windows, i start to get sig 11 failures, not just teh big things like andrew
> file systems apps, xemacs, but running an xterm with ee will core and drop
> dead. x keeps running, but i have a hard disk littered with little piles of
> core droppings .. grin
>
> i've torn down and rebuilt both machines several times and can find noting
> wrong with either. all components work flawlessly, in teh 'suspect' chassis,
> as well as in other assemblies. i know that hardware ages and gets less
> stable, but teh p6 is a new supermicro (p6sne motherboard) with guarenteed to
> run unixware, novell, nt, etc operating systems. when returned to supplier it
> would perform flawlessly, both nt and unixware running a web server mix
> application suite.
>
> ummmm. help please. if it explaines anyting, i set all teh accounts here as
> default class .. maybe i should be allocating more resources to x window
> enabled accounts, yes, if so how much ? i am not really familiar with x and
> wouldn't know where to start.

The obvious explanation is ``hardware''.  Don't be concerned with the
fact it's a brand new machine, it happens there too.  Could be a bad
memory chip, could be incorrectly set BIOS chipset timing parameters.

If, on the other hand, you can find a reproducible situation, we
should take a look at the entrails.

Greg
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