Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 18:37:54 +0300 From: Valentin Nechayev <netch@lucky.net> To: Bosko Milekic <bmilekic@technokratis.com> Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: complicated downgrade Message-ID: <20030722153754.GM76126@lucky.net> In-Reply-To: <20030722092030.GB58118@technokratis.com> References: <20030718091248.GO76126@lucky.net> <xzp4r1f8sp6.fsf@dwp.des.no> <20030722060106.GE76126@lucky.net> <20030722092030.GB58118@technokratis.com>
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Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 09:20:30, bmilekic wrote about "Re: complicated downgrade": > This sounds like the same symptoms as the latest USB problem... > when/if you track -current or even run one of the 5.x releases, it's > key to realize that this is very active code that you're running; it's > not the same thing as running 4.x, for example. The code in 5.x is > constantly actively changing, whereas the code in 4.x only receives > comparatively well-regulated merges from 5.x, for the most part. > Therefore, one of the things to always try is to update to the latest > -current, rebuild, and see if you can reproduce. Chances are, your > problem may have been fixed and, if not, at least we can be confident > that it's reproducable on your hardware with the latest sources. Well, I can do such mad rides on home machine, but not on remote collocation in another country. Running fresh -current I can get a bunch of some other problems which effectively will prevent system from running ;( The most problem I see preventing having much more wide testbase for -current is continuous nature of its committing. If it were developed, e.g., on week pulse, with only fixing bugs since Thu till Mon, and providing semi-stable snapshot on Mon, it can be more attractive to many users which want to track -current but have no will to deal with permanent panics... (Pulse iteration length can be arbitrary. One week is one averagely reasonable value. 3 months, as in RELENG_4, is too long.) -netch-
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