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Date:      Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:12:34 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@village.org>
To:        Neil Blakey-Milner <nbm@mithrandr.moria.org>
Cc:        security@FreeBSD.ORG, Peter Wemm <peter@netplex.com.au>
Subject:   Re: sendmail default run state 
Message-ID:  <200009222012.OAA70984@harmony.village.org>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 22 Sep 2000 21:56:16 %2B0200." <20000922215616.A33103@mithrandr.moria.org> 
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In message <20000922215616.A33103@mithrandr.moria.org> Neil Blakey-Milner writes:
: I personally would really like 'sendmail_outbound_only="YES"' to be the
: default in /etc/defaults/rc.conf, with an option in sysinstall's Network
: Services for turning it on/off.

I like this a lot.  We have several machines in the Village that ARE
NOT FOR EMAIL (caps ment to describe the tone of voice we have when we 
talk about them).  These machiens generate email all the time, but
should never receive email.  We solve this problem with a simple cron
job that runs once a day after the daily/weekly/monthly scripts run to 
deal with failures to send those right away.

Speaking of daily logs, I was wondering.  Let's say I have 100
machines that are in my network.  All of them send root mail to me.  I 
spool the message to a folder, but rarely read them because the volume 
is so large.  Does anybody have a tool that would read them and report 
things outside the normal?  I had thought (and have tried) a daily
diff, but that works well for some things (like passwordless accounts, 
say), but poorly for others (suid files changing, disk usage, etc).
I'd like to be able to setup a filter that will look at each message
and tell me if it is out of the ordinary.  Or if a machine goes
quiet.  With 10 machines I notice which ones I'm missing, but with 100 
I don't notice.  Has anybody implemented something like this?

Warner


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