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Date:      Tue, 1 Mar 2005 15:29:15 -0500
From:      John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>
To:        "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        bmah@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/installation/common install.sgml
Message-ID:  <200503011529.15251.jhb@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <20050301.094356.112814615.imp@bsdimp.com>
References:  <861xb0ha8r.fsf@xps.des.no> <86acpnmzih.fsf@xps.des.no> <20050301.094356.112814615.imp@bsdimp.com>

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On Tuesday 01 March 2005 11:43 am, M. Warner Losh wrote:
> In message: <86acpnmzih.fsf@xps.des.no>
>
>             des@des.no (Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav) writes:
> : John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> writes:
> : > How about a custom boot kernel?  When I suggested 12MB rather than
> : > 7MB in the original PR, I was thinking of the case of building a
> : > stripped-down custom kernel.  GENERIC certainly isn't going to fit
> : > well in 16MB.
> :
> : A custom kernel should work better.  I figured out that the "missing"
> : memory is in fact the memory used by the kernel, so a system with a
> : trimmed kernel should have a lot more memory available.  I'll run some
> : more tests...
>
> I've booted a stripped down (but not minimal) kernel with
> hw.physmem=3D10M to single user, but couldn't even get to multi-user
> with 16M:  Too many processes and too much swapping (I didn't trim my
> enabled list on my laptop).  If I booted a minimal kernel, and did
> some creative trimming, I think I can get down closer to 6M to 8M on a
> fairly small system (no acpi, etc), but it would be painful to run in
> that environemnt, unless you had special needs (eg, it was an embedded
> platform).

Then I think we should just say 24MB is the minimum required for both insta=
ll=20
and running given all the comments.  It will also simplify the docs if we=20
just go with one number for minimum memory requirement.

=2D-=20
John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>  <><  http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/
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