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Date:      Mon, 07 Feb 2000 00:35:32 -0700
From:      "Jonathan C. Frazier" <wolfman@csocs.com>
To:        Stanley Hopcroft <Stanley.Hopcroft@IPAustralia.Gov.AU>
Cc:        FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Performance of FreeBSD and MS Windows. What about select() and  memorymanagement etc ?
Message-ID:  <389E75C4.F5A004E7@csocs.com>
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0002071050190.6891-100000@stan>

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ok, this is so far off and out of line I don't even know where to begin to
argue.  So instead I'll give you a few examples and a resource and you can
educate yourself.

1. Microsoft itself uses a combination of Solaris and Redhat machines to
run their own network (web pages and mail included)

2. http://www.unix-vs-nt.org/kirch   (read it, know it, love it, live it)

3. Microsoft admits it's poor performance and that it trails unixs....
     http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB19980728S0004

4. Some of the largest and busiest sites on the net are run on FreeBSD
itself...that says a lot...   (ever hear of Yahoo, Cisco, Sony, Mercedes
Benz, Yellow Cab, and even Microsoft) Check out these other companies that
use Linux for day-to-day operations: http://www.m-tech.ab.ca/linux-biz/

5. The hidden cost of NT: http://www.informationweek.com/692/92iuhid.htm

6. Big lies of NT:
http://www.zdnet.com/pccomp/features/fea0797/nt/sub1.html

The fact remains that Microsoft has been far behind in performance,
stability and reliability for years.  A smart business can not afford to
depend on an NT for mission critical reliability.  UNIX's have stood rock
solid for over 30 years.  We have servers running here on FreeBSD and Linux
that have 3-4 years uptime.  I've never seen a case that comes close with
Microsoft.  We can argue about system calls all day long, but when you put
one up against the other, you'll see the difference.  Benchtests can be
used to argue anything and can be swayed and manipulated.  They don't tell
you much.  With literally millions of dollars in advertising supporting
Microsoft OS's, you won't hear too much unfavorable information about
them.  There's a reason for the popularity and it's not performance or
stability, its advertising and market manipulation.  The arguments will
continue ad noisome long after all of us are in our graves.  The arguments
are the same, only the OS will change.  Take it from me, or experiment
yourself.....Run an NT, a Linux, and a BSD system back to back and see the
order they die in.....see if MS's web server can stand up to Apache.  I
guarantee you MS will be the first to go down.  And then after the fact you
can compare prices...what each one cost, MS licensing fees, etc.  I think
you'll understand finally then what its all about.

J.C. Frazier



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