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Date:      Mon, 26 Apr 2010 19:59:29 -1000 (HST)
From:      Jeff Roberson <jroberson@jroberson.net>
To:        Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org>
Cc:        Alex Keda <admin@lissyara.su>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: HEADS UP: SUJ Going in to head today
Message-ID:  <alpine.BSF.2.00.1004261956430.1398@desktop>
In-Reply-To: <622DDEDF-0320-49DA-8037-CA8C1F682CC1@samsco.org>
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On Sun, 25 Apr 2010, Scott Long wrote:

> On Apr 24, 2010, at 8:57 PM, Jeff Roberson wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 Apr 2010, Alex Keda wrote:
>>
>>> try in single user mode:
>>>
>>> tunefs -j enable /
>>> tunefs: Insuffient free space for the journal
>>> tunefs: soft updates journaling can not be enabled
>>>
>>> tunefs -j enable /dev/ad0s2a
>>> tunefs: Insuffient free space for the journal
>>> tunefs: soft updates journaling can not be enabled
>>> tunefs: /dev/ad0s2a: failed to write superblock
>>
>> There is a bug that prevents enabling journaling on a mounted filesystem. So for now you can't enable it on /.  I see that you have a large / volume but in general I would also suggest people not enable suj on / anyway as it's typically not very large.  I only run it on my /usr and /home filesystems.
>>
>> I will send a mail out when I figure out why tunefs can't enable suj on / while it is mounted read-only.
>>
>
> This would preclude enabling journaling on / on an existing system, but I would think that you could enable it on / on a system that is being installed, since (at least in theory) the target / filesystem won't be the actual root of the system, and therefore can be unmounted at will.

That's definitely true.  Some users have had mixed success enabling it on 
/.  It looks like it is a bug either in g_access or ffs's use of g_access 
which does not allow tunefs to write after a downgrade.  I'm not yet sure 
how this is presently working for the softdep flag itself, or if it 
actually is at all.

To clarify my earlier statements:  Journaling only makes sense when the 
fsck time is longer than a few tens of seconds.  So volumes less than a 
gig or two don't really need journaling.  It just costs extra writes and 
fsck time will likely be similar.  In some pathological cases it can even 
be faster to fsck a small volume than it is to run the journal recovery on 
it.

Thanks,
Jeff

>
> Scott
>



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