Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 17:27:12 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Barton <Doug@gorean.org> To: Troy Settle <troy@picus.com> Cc: Jeremiah Gowdy <jgowdy@home.com>, Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: filesystem full? Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0003241717000.6914-100000@dt051n0b.san.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <BPEOKDIIGLACIBFDFLEPOEGJCAAA.troy@picus.com>
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On Fri, 24 Mar 2000, Troy Settle wrote:
>
> If a process dies out, the kernel should release all resources used by that
> process. The only processes using the /var filesystem, are the default system
> processes. I can't make any claims otherwise.
Someone else already set you straight here...
> In the 5 years I've been using FreeBSD, this is the first time I've seen a
> problem of this nature that I couldn't resolve without rebooting. So yes, I
> consider this an issue that puts a dent in FreeBSD's claim of stability. It
> needs to be addressed.
.. and here.
> What I don't get, is why everyone is getting so defensive over this. All I
> did was point out a potential problem, and everyone's jumping on me.
Because some people perceived your insulting tone as an
insult. One of the things I learned a while back was that it's generally a
good idea to not insult the people you are asking for help. :) Consider:
... If this turns out to be a FreeBSD problem it's something we should
really look seriously at, since it affects the perceived reliability of
the OS.
Vs. what you wrote above.
The short version is (and please try not to take this personally),
you blamed us for your ignorance, and some of the people on this list
don't take too kindly to that. Personally I learned to ignore stuff like
that a long time ago. :)
Another way to put it is that you are at stage two of learning to
be a good sysadmin.
Stage one: Thinks he knows everything.
Stage two: Actually starts to learn something.
Stage three: Starts to realize just how much he doesn't know.
Stage four: Starts to actually know something.
Stage five: Starts to learn how to use what he knows.
There are plenty of people around who are willing to help you get
past Stage two, you just need to, what was it you said.... oh
yes... "Chill out."
Doug
--
"So, the cows were part of a dream that dreamed itself into
existence? Is that possible?" asked the student incredulously.
The master simply replied, "Mu."
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