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Date:      Wed, 06 Mar 2002 05:50:05 -0700
From:      Joe Warner <rootman22@attbi.com>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
Cc:        Mike Meyer <mwm-dated-1015828071.85b1a7@mired.org>, Miguel Mendez <flynn@energyhq.homeip.net>, Cliff Sarginson <csfbsd@raggedclown.net>, anderson@centtech.com, Josef Karthauser <joe@tao.org.uk>, chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: http://users.uk.freebsd.org/~juha/
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Terry Lambert wrote:

> Mike Meyer wrote:
> > No, it was made up by real hackers - the kind that get invited to the
> > hackers conference - to describe people who break into computer
> > systems that they aren't allowed onto, so they could continue calling
> > themselves hackers without people assuming they were some kind of
> > criminal.
> >
> > I was that the hackes conference the press was allowed to visit. The
> > piece on he conference made it out like we were all some kind of
> > villains, plotting the next attack on Silicon Valley. Never mind that
> > a measurable percentage of the *ownership* of Silicon Valley was in
> > attendance.
> >
> > Notable for his absense was Captain Crunch.
>
> FWIW, John is working as the front guy for a security
> company these days, so he's unlikely to show up anywhere
> he might be considered shady.  ;^).
>
> -- Terry

I've been talking to John the last few days about his new
product called the CrunchBox:

http://www.shopip.com/  I signed up for a login and tried the
online demo out and it looks to be a really great product.  He
seems like a nice fellow that has a lot to offer to the ComSec
community.

Joe


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Terry Lambert wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Mike Meyer wrote:
<br>> No, it was made up by real hackers - the kind that get invited to
the
<br>> hackers conference - to describe people who break into computer
<br>> systems that they aren't allowed onto, so they could continue calling
<br>> themselves hackers without people assuming they were some kind of
<br>> criminal.
<br>>
<br>> I was that the hackes conference the press was allowed to visit.
The
<br>> piece on he conference made it out like we were all some kind of
<br>> villains, plotting the next attack on Silicon Valley. Never mind
that
<br>> a measurable percentage of the *ownership* of Silicon Valley was
in
<br>> attendance.
<br>>
<br>> Notable for his absense was Captain Crunch.
<p>FWIW, John is working as the front guy for a security
<br>company these days, so he's unlikely to show up anywhere
<br>he might be considered shady.&nbsp; ;^).
<p>-- Terry</blockquote>
I've been talking to John the last few days about his new
<br>product called the CrunchBox:
<p><A HREF="http://www.shopip.com/">http://www.shopip.com/</A>&nbsp; I signed up for a login and tried the
<br>online demo out and it looks to be a really great product.&nbsp; He
<br>seems like a nice fellow that has a lot to offer to the ComSec
<br>community.
<p>Joe
<br>&nbsp;
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>&nbsp;
<p>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
<br>with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message</blockquote>

<pre>--&nbsp;
Joe Warner
Daemon News
Daemon News E-Zine <A HREF="http://www.daemonnews.org">http://www.daemonnews.org</A>;
Print Magazine <A HREF="http://magazine.daemonnews.org/">http://magazine.daemonnews.org/</A>;
BSDMall <A HREF="http://www.bsdmall.com">http://www.bsdmall.com</A></pre>;
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