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Date:      Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:39:30 -0700
From:      John-Mark Gurney <gurney_j@resnet.uoregon.edu>
To:        Peter Jeremy <peterjeremy@optushome.com.au>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Jona Joachim <jaj@hcl-club.lu>
Subject:   Re: Atheros Open Hal
Message-ID:  <20070814173930.GC99491@funkthat.com>
In-Reply-To: <20070804004107.GJ1262@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org>
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Peter Jeremy wrote this message on Sat, Aug 04, 2007 at 10:41 +1000:
> On 2007-Aug-03 15:00:30 +0200, Jona Joachim <jaj@hcl-club.lu> wrote:
> >On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 18:46:58 -0500
> >linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 11:51:54PM +0200, Jona Joachim wrote:
> >> > Quoting from
> >> > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide/people.html:
> >> > "In order to develop FreeBSD, committers must have the ability to
> >> > openly discuss matters that will be resolved before they are
> >> > publicly announced. Frank discussions of work in progress are not
> >> > suitable for open publication and may harm FreeBSD."
> ...
> >I reread the sentence twice to make sure I don't change its meaning
> >by putting it out of context.
> 
> However you didn't mention the final paragraph regarding the
> -developers list which makes it clear that -developers is _not_
> intended to hide general discussions from the general FreeBSD
> community.

There's a lot that wasn't quoted:
Examples are Core voting, announcements, etc.

This list is not intended as a place for code reviews or a replacement
for the FreeBSD architecture and design mailing list or the FreeBSD
source code audit mailing list. In fact using it as such hurts the
FreeBSD Project as it gives a sense of a closed list where general
decisions affecting all of the FreeBSD using community are made
without being "open".

And that last one clearly states that what was accussed should not
happen...

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