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Date:      Tue, 11 Nov 1997 15:53:39 -0800 (PST)
From:      Tom <tom@uniserve.com>
To:        Studded <Studded@dal.net>
Cc:        FreeBSD Stable List <FreeBSD-Stable@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Old stuff in 2.2.5
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.971111154834.28952D-100000@shell.uniserve.com>
In-Reply-To: <199711102311.PAA22738@dragonlair.dal.net>

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On Mon, 10 Nov 1997, Studded wrote:

> want to re-open that can of worms.  What I AM intersted in is learning
> which parts of -stable are out of date (in your opinion, I reserve final
> judgement :) and how I can replace them in the easiest possible way.  My
> reasons for asking this is that with any kind of luck, I'm going to be
> installing FreeBSD systems on a commercial level, so I want the best, most
> secure systems possible, with the fewest steps.  The two main things I

  out-of-date != insecure

> know about are Perl and curses, so with that in mind, I have the following
> questions.  PLEASE, keep all responses flame free and on topic. 


> 1.  What part or parts of the 2.2.5-Stable code (or 22_releng if you
> prefer) do *you* consider out of date, and why?

  None.  Everything works as-is.  If I need additional functionaily, I get
things out of packages.

> 2.  What disadvantages does this out of date component (or components)
> cause?  [I'm aware of the perl problems, but I would love some details on
> curses.]

  perl problems?  I'm not aware of any problems with the included perl4.

  If you require features not in perl4, use perl5, it is package.

> 4.  Is there an easy way to replace the version of that code that comes
> with -stable with the newer version *before* I do make world, so that I
> don't need to replace or recompile things in a second step after the make
> world is done.

  There should no need to remove anything.

> 5.  Related to question 4, I am particularly interested in replacing perl
> 4 entirely, since I'm short on hd space (yes I know it's cheap nowadays,
> but I'm broke :).  Can anyone tell me if replacing the perl sources that
> come from the /src directory on the ftp site with perl 5 will accomplish
> this, or if I'll have to install perl 5 after the make world.  Also,
> assuming I will have to do it in 2 steps,  what's the easiest way to
> delete all of perl 4?

  perl4 is tiny.  You would barely save anything removing it.

Tom




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