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Date:      Fri, 5 Jan 2001 22:51:36 +0300
From:      "Artem Koutchine" <matrix@ipform.ru>
To:        <security@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Antisniffer measures (digest of posts)
Message-ID:  <000701c07750$eb585e60$0c00a8c0@ipform.ru>

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Hello!

I have reread all the followups on the questions i posted in the mid
december.

first:

50% of the people said "SWITCH TO SWITCHES", 50% of the
people said: "EVEN SWITCHES CANNOT HELP"

Then mostly everytone started talking about SNMP controllable
switches with hardcorded MAC addreses for each port.

Then people started to talk about static ARP entries on the host.

ONE (ONLY ONE) person mentioned encryption, but did not elaborate
on that.

Well, let me remind the situtation. I have a very heterogenic network:
FreeBSD, Linux, Win9x, WinME, WInNT, WIn2000. Now they are all
connected with hubs, which allows sniffer to run and obtain all the mail
and web password easily. I need to stop it.

Buying 500$ SNMP controllable switch is CRAZY. I will not do it. It is
way too expensive. It will cost us about 4000$.

So, as I see we two possible solutions and one probable soultion:

POSSIBLE N1:
Switches (NON SNMP contrlllable, which do not turn into hub when flooded
with MAC addresses), hardcorder ARP entries on hosts
for router, DNS, MAIL, POP, corporate web (thanks hot it is the same host).

QUESTIONS:
    Is it possible to do to hard code ARP entries in WINxxxxx?
    Is there such switch which does not fall back into hub mode when flooded
with
    MACs?

POSSIBLE N2:
Install a little FBSD/LINUX  based router  indetad of each hub. Put a bunch
of
NIC in each. Put each host on a reparate NIC. Price: 100$ for the Pentium166
based host+ 8nics x 20$=100+160=260$ (twice as cheap as SNMP switch and
twice as expensive and a simple switch)

QUESTIONS:
    I wonder where do i get 8 IRQs for the NICs int the routing box.
    Will the box with 4PCIs and 4ISA NICs be able to hold on electricwise?

PROBABLE:
Some kind of tranparent IP encryprtion.

QUESTIONS:
    What kind of IP encryption?
    Is it availbale for FBSD, Linux, WINxxxxx?


I hope someone would  help.

Best regards,
Artem Koutchine



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